Comments on Afghanistan’s Male Soldiers Are Having Sex With Other Guys. But Don’t Call Them Homos

18 February 2010

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Comments (72)

No. 1 · B Damion

Yah…this is the “I’m not gay I just like to sleep with men” mentality that most Bi-sexual men like to take on now. This type of behavior is selfish and cruel. I am just sick of it. Pick a sexuality n stick with it. I hate this crap.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 2:38 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 2 · rf

And Afgahanistan will get same sex marriage before America…
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 2:41 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 3 · romeo

So be it. LOL

As I’ve mentioned before, historically, some of the best Persian and Ottoman poetry is about gay love. LOL Say hello to the real Islam. But Christianity is just as hypocritical. I believe we have a Ted Haggard thread running? LMAO!

I’d also say let the boys have their fun, but just wish they had more balls. You know, while silently watching some of their brothers getting publicly hanged.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 2:49 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 4 · JamesDeansCrotch

@B Damion:

For the record, most bi sexual men do NOT have that mentality. Where do you get off with the bi-phobic remarks? That’s just as bad as the religious right trying to tell us who we should sleep with.

It’s not for you tell bisexual men or women to “pick a sexuality” and stick with it.

Be nice.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 2:51 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 5 · Dirty Ole Man

Some of my best Adult Book Store encounters
involved U.S Service Men. I can see the pain on their faces
from having to live such a double life. The secrecy they have to
live under is just sad.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 3:24 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 6 · El Brucio

I’m torn on whether to believe this or not.

On one hand, it’s kind of understandable given their culture’s ban on mingling with females and prohibitions on sex before marriage. Horny guys without access to women will do what horny guys in our prisons are already doing to each other.

On the other hand, this is also smells of propaganda designed to pacify westerners who are concerned about the ongoing occupation of Afghanistan. “Haha, look at how backwards they are there, they really need us to look after things for them!”
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No. 7 · B Damion

@JamesDeansCrotch..I stated my opp. N thats what these forums are about. Your Personal opp of me is non of my business..lol…
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 4:08 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 8 · Josh_Texas

Religion. It just ruins so many lives.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 4:14 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 9 · The Artist

Hmmm…. this doesn’t seem like news. Isn’t the whole point of being in a homosocial setting, is the sex, or at least being with people of the same sex. Picture this: a group of men, sharing together day-in, day-out. Seems hot 2 me. PEACELUVNBWILDYALL!
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 4:15 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 10 · JamesDeansCrotch

@B Damion

I understand that. That’s what we’re here for.

I identify as bisexual.

So I took your opinion, “personally.”

We should hang out sometime so I can show you just how awesome a bisexual can be!
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 4:18 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 11 · scott ny’er

@B Damion: that’s cool. but following ur logic u must be ok with heteros stating their homophobic opinions about gays on boards. and continuing with that train of thought, in any public forum, be it tv, music, poetry, radio, etc.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 4:51 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 12 · jason

This Pashtun phenomenon is referred to as “situational homosexuality”. Situational homosexuality occurs when men live and work together in groups devoid of women. The absence of women can be due to the nature of the job or it may be cultural/religious.

The reason why a lot of the Pashtuns deny the word “homosexual” or “gay” is because they are denying the noun form. The noun form is all-encompassing, as if to say you are “black” or you are “Chinese”. The noun is non-fluid, basically. As such, it doesn’t apply to men who engage in situational sexuality, where the situation may change.

Within the Pashtuns, what you have is men who are predominantly heterosexual in orienation but homosexual in their relations due to the situation they are in.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 5:08 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 13 · St.LuciaBoy

I need to get me some Afghan meat…
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 5:11 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 14 · eagledancer

This is something I’ve been writing and lecturing about for years, and tried explaining to CDC when I was working with the agency regarding research on sexual behavior. “Gay” as many of the people on this board understand the term, is not used by many other cultures. Other cultures, btw, may have much more sophisticated and layered ways of classifying sexual interactions. When you work with cultures that have more than two genders, then even the concept of “homosexuality” (i.e., “same-sex”) gets to be a slippery slope, because a person might not be engaged in “same-sex” behavior, but is having sex with a member of a third or fourth gender.
As I have explained repeatedly—if you’re not from that culture—you don’t get to vote. To demand that a culture that’s been functioning for a lot longer than America’s been around change to meet your cultural bias is unrealistic as someone from that culture explaining to you that you really AREN’T gay, and you accepting their conclusion. As researchers we struggle to come up with terms that will both serve to comprehend how local communities conceptualize things, and how we describe them from a western science perspective.
This, by the way, is different than being in denial. If the culture sanctions the concept of more than two genders, or that a man is “only” a “homosexual” if he is in the “passive” position of anal intercourse, that’s very different than one of Queerty’s American members having sex with a man consistently, and refusing a “gay” (or bisexual) identity. This would be the individual in denial of his action.
“Gay” for a lot of other cultures has also taken on a very specific Western meaning. When I was on faculty for a Human Sexuality week long seminar at the Kinsey Institute, working with Japanese Sex Educators, my old friend (mayheresstinpeace) David McWhirter (he co-authored The Male Couple with his partner) introduced himself as a “Gay man.” When the translator shared that with the Japanese audience, they became agitated, and confronted her, saying she must have mistranslated, because David obviously wasn’t “gay” because he wasn’t wearing a dress.
“Gay” means different things to different audiences. This isn’t just true in other cultures—I read over and over again in contemporary forums of how men who self-identify as “gay” did not do so initially because the stereotypical media representations of gays, and the pejorative remarks made about gay behavior by their family and friends didn’t seem to “match” their own self-image of who they were. There are a number of gay identity developmental models that indicate how common this disconnect can be as people begin to feel out their sexual identity.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 5:22 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 15 · olen

Once again, the Western construct of “sexual orientation” is running up against its limits in ordering the multicultural multiplicities of reality. “Homosexuality” is a complex set of conditions and circumstances comprising an entirely Western concept. Mere ass-fucking doesn’t equal this concept of homosexuality. Fox News, in publishing the original story with claims of “denial” on the part of the Afghans is using homophobia and mockery as more fuel for their anti-Muslim, pro-America, pro-military agenda. Using the words “disturbing practice” to describe the reality of man-boy sexual interaction is homophobic and xenophobic and not considerate of cultural context. this type of thinking needs to be dismantled now, as it serves too often as justification of violence.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 5:52 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 16 · scott ny’er

@olen: Interesting viewpoint and nicely put.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 6:06 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 17 · Mario

Obviously not all men in the Pashtun ethnic group reject women otherwise, who is fathering children? Are all Pashtun the result of virgin births?
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 6:23 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 18 · Charles Merrill

PBS has cancelled a show out of fear for the boys in Afganistan taken into sexual slavery by powerful warlords. CNN did a report last October. Many hundreds of boys, often as young as 11, are being lured off the streets on the promise of a new life, many unaware that their real fate is to be used for entertainment and sex. They’re the “Bacha Bereesh,” literally “beardless boys,” chosen for their height, size and beauty, trained to sing and dance for male audiences, and then traded for sexual favors among former warlords and powerful businessmen. It’s an ancient custom but not talked about.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 6:25 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 19 · Wade macMorrighan

@Josh_Texas: Unless you have a sexually liberating religion, such as mine!
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 6:35 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 20 · Wade macMorrighan

@JamesDeansCrotch: Actually, SOME guys deserve to have some bi-phobic remarks levied their way, especially for being an EVIL Player that tell you he’s Gay, when he’s NOT, then later on PURPOSEFULLY break your heart just because someone hurt him in the past! It took me YEARS to get over that (and he was my FIRST head-spinning kiss), and I *still* want the bastards balls served to me on a silver platter! ‘Course, I have the last laugh: he can no longer use his toned body and 6-pack as an emotional weapon to attract men anymore, as I hear he’s gotten extremely over-weight in the 10 years since I’ve seen him!

There is NO excuse for Sociopathic behavior such as THAT!
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 6:39 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 21 · sam

I saw that report on CNN that Charles Merrill: was writing about. It’s so sad.

As someone that is familiar with Muslim culture, in America anyway, and a little informed about middle eastern culture, the bond between men and between men and boys is profound there. Just take a traditional Muslim marriage —- everything is separated. Men have their party at one location and the bride and her female family members have a party at another location.

It’s no surprise how many of these boys experiment with each other because they can’t have sex with women their age, until they get married, and getting married is often expensive, so they have to wait awhile. A lot of them aren’t truly attracted to other men, but because they’ve been doing it awhile, it becomes habit, tradition.

And many are just stuck, and happen to be male sex slaves. It’s a sad life. But like others have sad, “gay” is not a word used in many of these cultures. Even if gay acts are tolerated and encouraged. But they need to be educated to protect themselves from diseases at least, and maybe less judgement.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 7:17 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 22 · dontblamemeivotedforhillary

Isn’t Thursday unofficial Gay-day in Muslim culture? Wednesday must be haircut day! Certainly would not TAIF (Thank Allah It’s Friday!)

BTW – Boycott Annoying Saint Lucia because of their ads!
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 7:44 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 23 · Larry

@jason: (12) Excellent explanation. Wouldn’t prison be another example of situational, homosexual sex? Most of the prisoners who fuck each other are not gay, they’re just going for what’s available.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 8:06 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 24 · dan j

Humans are very complex and our expressions of our humanity are clearly shaped and molded to some extent by what our culture tolerates and what it punishes. What comes through across time and place is that there will be some same sex bonding whether it is tolerated or not. If we could just accept that fact and quit trying to legislate a religious interpretation of morality that results in various forms of “don’t ask, don’t tell” there would be much less needless suffering.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 8:08 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 25 · Dasher

“It’s no surprise how many of these boys experiment with each other because they can’t have sex with women their age, until they get married, and getting married is often expensive, so they have to wait awhile.”

Sounds just like the U.S. when I was growing up; teenage girls (with very few exceptions) were not available for sex. Boys who were straight, or mostly straight, looked around, and hit on the boys who caught their eye (me). In their 20’s, these straight boys all ended up married with children. It was a no lose situation. They got off, and no one accused them of anything. Parents usually looked the other way if they suspected or saw anything. Some parents even found it useful. The mother of one boy told me later that she approved of her son’s (sexual) relationship with me, because the alternative, getting some girl pregnant, was out of the question.

If you grew up in this country in the 1950s or 1960s, did you experience this the way I did? I realize that my particular situation might have been the exception.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 8:57 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 26 · jason

What we in the gay community need to understand is that, although our gay rights movement is political, homosexuality itself is biological. A lot of the homosexuality that we see in society cannot be perceived correctly from the political position many of us occupy. We need to step down a notch and view it from the biological angle.

Yes, political movements are important. Indeed, without becoming political, it is doubtful that we would have achieved the rights we have today. But it is wrong to put a political magnifying glass over what is essentially a biological phenomenon.

We need to understand that homosexuality exists in degrees and that many men engage in situational homosexual activity.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 9:40 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 27 · jason

Larry,

That’s exactly right. A lot of these men in prisons couldn’t care less about gay rights. They’re simply interested in getting their rocks off. Homosexual interactions are a manifestation of this desire.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 9:43 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 28 · McShane

Arabs have always had M2M sex ; they just don’t deal with it as a western life issue-Some of the religious extremists make a thing of it but they have sexual desires like everyone.
Americans are tied up in their bizarre Christian cunundrum which has condemed homoseual acts since they strated hanging around.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 10:32 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 29 · Javier

Even in the United States, most men who have sex with men do not identify as gay. American men recoil at the label just like the rest of the world, while enjoying the bonding.
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 at 11:51 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 30 · blackjack44

@B Damion: I disagree with your notion about bisexual men because being bisexual myself, i have no problem acknowledging the fact that I love both men and women, but to say pick a sexuality and stick with it is to completely disregard what being bisexual is and is quite disrespectful. The reason a bisexual person is in fact bisexual is because of equal attraction to both sexes so picking a sex isnt going to stop us from being attracted to the other.

I hate when the gay community tries to do to bisexuals what the general population doest to gay people in general, and thats make them look like the bad people or the deviants of the group. Yes there are people who say their bi because they think its cool or itll sell albums or whatever the case may be but dont try to make it seem like to paint bi people as some sort or blemish in the gay community.
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 2:24 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 31 · olen

hear hear, Blackjack44.
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 4:06 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 32 · eagledancer

In many “hypermasculine” cultures where women do not hold high status, you’ll see a common pattern related to Power. The “important” person is an older male. People with less Power are younger males, women, and slaves (if the culture supports slavery) as well as prostitutes. In this type of culture, the “violation” of Power is if a High Status male engages sexually with someone of the same status. It is not considered a violation, but a display of Power, for a higher status male to have sex with someone of lower status.

This sets up a cycle, where an older male will take a young male lover (or “halekon” in their language). As the younger male matures, he will replicate this behavior once he is himself of higher status, and he will take a younger lover. Young men will have sex withh male peers, because neither one is of high status until they mature. When the former young lover is older, and acquiring status, he will no longer be sexually involved with his former “patron” because that would be a “violation”–two men of high status should not have a sexual relationship. Males will marry because that is the social expectation–marry and have children. According to some of the reports on Afghanistani culture, it is not unusual for the older male to marry off one of his daughters to his former male lover, now that the lover is old enough to start a family of his own…thus keeping the former halekon “in the family.”
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 5:09 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 33 · soakman

@Olen & Eagledancer

These were along my thoughts as well. As most of you probably know, ancient Greece also participated in homosexual acts, but the term for them didn’t even exist yet. There were terms for the partners based on what role they took: Erastes, and Eromenos.

It’s a cultural perspective. You can’t say they’re in denial about something they have no cultural understanding of. Especially with globalization, people are learning newer and newer terms for things they once considered something else. There’s obviously going to be some dissonance when you have to reconcile the two. And more often than not, the term that you understand better will be the term that you decide to embrace.
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No. 34 · eagledancer

@Soakman–yes–in living cultures, you will always see change…static cultures die. For example, it’s interesting for me to see how Chinese culture traditionally dealt with same-sex “stuff” and there’s a poetic term “cut sleeve” (supposedly, one of the rulers had a male lover who fell asleep on the emperor’s sleeve, and rather than wake him, he cut his sleeve off). Queerty has been covering the on and off again “Mr. Gay China Pageant,” which is an excellent example of how western concepts and behaviors of “gayness” have been adapted/superimposed upon their culture. As a result, you see a spectrum of coping behaviors, ranging from maintaining the historical experience, and some members of the culture taking on “outsider” behavior, because the new identity provides something the older one did not.

As a Native American Two-Spirit, I see in our own communities a shift like this, where traditionally a young person would have been identified as whatever the particular tribal nation had as a type of “Two Spirit” person…but in 2010, a young person is often told, “Oh, you’re gay.” These are not exactly equivalent, but once the “new” term and concept gets introduced, it can be like a computer virus, where the older concepts become corrupted and “over-written.”
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No. 35 · benlayvey

@jason: Wasn’t this the same situation in our Hellenistic past? However the term “Homosexual”, had it been invented back then would have merited the same “NO LABELS” attitude we see with these Afghans. Homosexuality thrived in the ancient world because of the absence of labels. To most people, the word “Homosexual” is a damning comment on one’s masculinity. It’s synonymous to femininity. This connotation leaves men who posses not the traits of the word to distance themselves from the horde though they share the same sexual proclivities. It’s the assertion of one’s power over another-the strong over the weak, the penetrator over the penetrated and finally the masculine over the feminine. I think the abhorrence for the word “Straight-acting” stems-perhaps unconsciously-from this. Effete Homosexuals feel such men are often unhelpful bystanders when they are harassed for the same reasons theythe straight acting gay is being left of the hook for.
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No. 36 · Charles Merrill

@eagledancer:
The tide is changing in the USA. Democracy allows for two gentle men (not butch acting) of the same economic status to be in love. The Victorian Oscar Wilde “Prince and the Pauper” is outdated.
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No. 37 · jason

BlackJack,

A bisexual orientation means that one is oriented to both sexes. “Bisexual” does not specify the proportion, it simply specifies that there are two sexes – ie genders – to whom sexual attraction exists.

Yes, there are some bisexuals who are equally attracted to both sexes. However, most bisexuals are predominantly attracted to one sex over the other.
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 9:57 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 38 · Bianca

“An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns — though they seem to be in complete denial about it.”

I think sex among men is very widespred in muslim societies and that’s because of the taboo on sex between men and women without marriage, women being so isolated and seen as objects whose value sepends on their being virgins and only having sex with their husband if they have one. Women and men are separated from eachother from childhood.
Are some of those men really gay? For sure but I doubt there are more gay men there than anywhere else.

Religion is so fucked up!
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 10:04 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 39 · Chitown Kev

@eagledancer: @olen:

Thank you.@benlayvey:

“To most people, the word “Homosexual” is a damning comment on one’s masculinity.”

The closest thing that the ancient Romans had to such a word was “cinadeus” which, roughly and slangily translated, is a stark raving flaiming queen.

In ancient Rome (and even nowadays in Latin America, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia) it’s less about whether you have sex with a man then…to be crude about it, whether you’re a “top” or a “bottom.” And yes, these distinctions still survive in our society and in the gay community nowadays.
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No. 40 · Dasher

This is why Ahmadinejad said there are no homosexuals in Iran. There aren’t any, because no man would identify himself as one. It’s an Islamic society, and the punishment for publicly admitting to being one is probably being stoned to death in the main square.

Everything there has to be conducted on the “Down low”, just like it used to be in this country in the 1940s and 1950s.

But if you think there is no hatred of homosexuals in the U.S. in 2010, just check out the Adam Lambert thread on Queerty.
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No. 41 · schlukitz

You say tomato and I say tomahtoh….
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No. 42 · Chitown Kev

@schlukitz:

Well, yes and no.

Having studied this in other cultures, it really seems to be more about being a “top” or a “bottom.”
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No. 43 · schlukitz

No. 40 · Chitown Kev

My comment was directed to no one in particular and had noting to do with tops or bottoms, neither of which do I have an issue with.

What I was referring to in my comment no. 39, was in response to Queerty’s headline.

Afghanistan’s Male Soldiers Are Having Sex With Other Guys. But Don’t Call Them Homos

Afghani male soldiers call it one thing, we westerners call it another. ;P
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No. 44 · Chitown Kev

@schlukitz:

Oh, yeah, you’re not entirely wrong, of course, but it is a lot MORE complicated than Queerty is making it…I was just saying that tops and bottoms is a little bit closer than the distinctions that we make in “Western cultures” nowadays. It’s not even so much that men who participate in same-sex activity and are the “tops” are on the “down low”…there’s really nothing to be said about it, it’s assumed to happen (even while men are married to women). There’s really no closet that people are in.

(I found this out when I studied about this subject as it relates to Indonesia).

And, yes, it seemed very, very strange to me when I first studied it.
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No. 45 · NoDoubleStandards

People reading this as a sign of sexual freedom in other societies are interpreting this through their own political agenda.

This is about sexual repression. It is not that these men are having sex with other men out in the open. They are sleeping with other men and hiding it. They are not demonstrating the acceptance of liquid sexuality. They are hiding the man on man contact.

This is not about Queerty or societal norms other than your own societal norms that says all sex is equal regardless of how it is done. Except that’s not how these cultures few sex between men. They are so in denial about it that they can not even admit that they are contracting diseases from having it.

I have friend, and I also, have dated Muslim guys like this. They are in so much denial about the man on man sex that they will claim after wards that they did not just have sex with you. This is not liberation. It is self hate.

There is such a thing a situational sex between men, but that’s not the point here. THe point is that there is no way in a repressed culture to know what these men’s true sexuality is because of the repression. It is just a different form of repression than the west, but it is repression of anything beyond heterosexuality.
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No. 46 · NoDoubleStandards

Follow up on Islam.

By the way, Christianity has a huge problem with sexuality, especially the puritanism variety practiced in the US. But, Islam has just as big a problem with it. It would be a mistake to read this as accepting of gay sex whether conditional or otherwise. It is more a way to address the repression that all cultures experience regarding homosexual desire.
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No. 47 · NoDoubleStandards

Matriarchial societies like some native American tribes- you also see fluid sexuality, but again, it is not always an example of acceptance as much as a way to control it.
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No. 48 · Chitown Kev

@NoDoubleStandards:

The problem here is that…sure, there’s PLENTY of same-sex attraction, there’s PLENTY of same-sex sex, but there is very little homosexual IDENTITY…and (I think I am understanding and sayin this correctly) the question in these countries that you’re saying is “repressed” is the actual “homosexual” identity and not the the homosexual sex activity itself.

Kinda what Gore Vidal says, actually, that homosexual is a verb and not a noun. It’s something that you do, not the thing that you repeatedly are (or present yourself as).
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 3:43 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 49 · NoDoubleStandards

@Chitown Kev: Neither the noun or verb are accepted. This is not a debate about grammar. The repression is there whether you are having sex with men or because you are an avowed homosexual. Neither are accepted. This is why they could not admit that they caught a disease from the sex.

The whole conversation here smell of the typical political camps that I see at this site and amongst gay men of privilege trying to push another culture or other forms of repression into existing pet arguments.

I could tell that with the first comment being about bisexuality. What it really means is that they are willing to have sex with men, but are not willing to discuss it because society would repress them if they do.

They don’t accept either the verb or now from what I know of dating Muslim guys who grew up in the Middle East or Pakistan. It was not like I was asking them to say they are gay. We were talking about the sex. I don’t know specifically about Afghanistan. My point is that you should not confuse self hate and its many permutations with greater acceptance.
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 3:55 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 50 · NoDoubleStandards

@Chitown Kev: By the way, one of the comments above is a perfect example of what I mean by trying to push a set of facts into one’s preexisting beliefs. Someone mentioned Iran. The reason why no one there admits to even having gay sex is not because it is about a noun or a verb, but because the state will kill you for even doing the verb.
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No. 51 · Chitown Kev

@NoDoubleStandards:

Oh, I didn’t say that there wasn’t STATE repression…and that repression is not merely “gay sex.” It’s the repression of any sexual pleasure for the receptive partner. As to be expected, these are deeply misogynist societies as well.

And usually, for the receptive partner in that situation, there is also the assumption that the male receptive partner is a prostitute as well.

And, yeah, even Gore Vidal’s thought about it really doesn’t apply to the situation in the middle east
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No. 52 · Chitown Kev

@NoDoubleStandards:

“My point is that you should not confuse self hate and its many permutations with greater acceptance.”

By the way, not confusing the two at all.
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No. 53 · NoDoubleStandards

@Chitown Kev: My reference is the plural you, and not you specifically. As in the people posting here, rather than your specific understanding.
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No. 54 · Charles Merrill

@NoDoubleStandards: They put you in a hole and bury everything except your neck and head. Then the mob throws stones at you, killing you, shouting “God Is Great”. The other method is to push a stone wall over on you shouting “God is Great”.
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 4:22 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 55 · NoDoubleStandards

@Chitown Kev: As Re gore Vidal and others, that’s my only point. That if one is saying don’t judge them by our standards, then that applies to everyone including those claiming some kind of liberation in the middle east that is simply not there. I am not specifying you here, but , instead the general sense of the comments that are saying “Oh, they accept sex between men more” No one actually said that, but I want to make it incredibly clear they don’t accept it more, but choose to repress and oppress it in different ways than we do. It is like debating whether one wants to die by hanging or by gun fire. In both instances, you are dead so the point while interesting, can miss the bigger picture.
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No. 56 · Chitown Kev

@NoDoubleStandards:
Ah, but you’re replying to my comment. Thanks for the clarification.

Of course, in Iran, there is another alternative

http://www.queerty.com/does-ga…..-20090303/

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No. 57 · Chitown Kev

@NoDoubleStandards:

That’s true for the Middle East, but not necessarily for Southeast Asia (and Afghanistan could be considered part of both).
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 4:27 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 58 · Chitown Kev

@Chitown Kev:

Now, witht he growth of fundamentalist Islam in Southeast Asia (e.g. Indonesia) this may be changing to stricter enforcement of Islamic law, but much of what I said would apply to Southeast Asia (which is very different from the Middle East).
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 4:30 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 59 · NoDoubleStandards

@Chitown Kev: Yeah that why I was careful at the end to point out that my experiences with Muslim men are of certain countries like Pakistan rather than Afghanistan because I don’t know much about them other than from some straight friends, and as you may imagine they would disavow any knowledge of the subject even if I asked.
Posted: Jan 30, 2010 at 4:32 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 60 · Bianca

@NoDoubleStandards:
“There is such a thing a situational sex between men, but that’s not the point here. THe point is that there is no way in a repressed culture to know what these men’s true sexuality is because of the repression. It is just a different form of repression than the west, but it is repression of anything beyond heterosexuality”

That’s spot on, in my view. I totally agree.

When sexual repression is that deep and starts from childhood, there’s no way of knowing anymore if they are really gay or simply screwed up beyond repair by social influences and indoctrination.

These men have no way to even test what way they gravitate, the way men (boys) can in more advanced societies (even decades ago). They aren’t allowed any kind of sexual contact with girls whatsoever I’m not even talking about full intercouse but much less.
They grow up in strictly male company and if they marry late (late teens, mid 20’s) what are they supposed to do with all those raging hormones for decades?

I bet almost every man in their societies had at least some kind
of sexual experience with another male.
Posted: Jan 31, 2010 at 1:45 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 61 · hephaestion

Eagledancer, Sam & Jason are right.

The Afghan soldiers are most straight. But across the African-Middle Eastern-Asian Moslem world straight men have sex with men all the time. I recall my shock the first time an Iranian straight man wanted to have sex with me. It’s no big deal over there. They are forbidden from going NEAR a female there, lest they be severely shunned (or worse), so they turn to other men for sex.

Saudi Arabia has been described as a gay Nirvana. Sex between men happens constantly. But it’s absolutely verbotten to be indiscrete about it.

An Iranian told me that virtually all Moslem mullahs there are gay. All of them. And you know the Sufi whirling dervishes are, too.
Posted: Jan 31, 2010 at 9:14 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 62 · hephaestion

Queerty should run a series on how societies around the world view homosexuality. It differs greatly from Japan to Java to Nepal to Burkino Faso, etc etc…
Posted: Jan 31, 2010 at 9:22 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 63 · NoDoubleStandards

@hephaestion: Again this is not about homosexuality or any verb- it is about repression. And whether or not these men are straight or not is not something that any of you can know one way or the other. Let’s put it this way, given the amount of repression that still exist in the West despite advances on sexuality, do you really think in cultures that completely avoid sexuality that it will be any less fucked up? WHo is gay, who is straight, who is bisexual is an issue that we do not even reach due to the repression of sex. Even that person you slept with may or may not have been gay. So how would you know?
Posted: Jan 31, 2010 at 10:32 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 64 · Jason

But, I don’t really like sand in my butt crack. I don’t.
Posted: Jan 31, 2010 at 1:50 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 65 · eagledancer

@Charles Merrill: Hey Charles–my earlier posts were specifically addressed to “hypermasculine” cultures, where there is an extreme separation between men and women in public settings. I feel the United States is a culture that has been struggling with its masculine identity for a number of decades. There’s a great book by Mark Simpson–Male Impersonators: Men Performing Masculinity. He suggests how really fragile American (and British ) concepts of masculinity are, and how they are so constantly at the point of failure, they have to be “re-created/re-enforced” at all times.

Unfortunately, for all the “nice Democracy,”
that “…allows for two gentle men (not butch acting) of the same economic status to be in love.” The truth is in most of America these romantic couples are not allowed to legally marry any more than Victorian same-sex couples were.

“The Victorian Oscar Wilde “Prince and the Pauper” is outdated.” Maybe…not so much. Certainly we’ve been witness to an evolutionary process where same-sex couples are being better integrated into the society as a whole.
Posted: Jan 31, 2010 at 5:33 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 66 · eagledancer

@hephaestion: I suggested to Queerty staff when the site was first starting to do a regular feature/column on cross-cultural sexuality and Human Sexuality in general, but got no response. I still think it’s a good idea.
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No. 67 · Dasher

It might be easier to understand the current situation in Afghanistan if we just looked back to the way things were in the U.S. in the 1940s, 1950s, and into the 1960s.

Although the various U.S. religions were no doubt stricter then, teenage girls were just not available for sex. There was no deeper shame for a family than to have a pregnant out-of-wedlock daughter. The enforcers were their fathers and older brothers. Teenage boys who were as straight as straight can be had to look elsewhere for sex. This usually involved other boys, and was not advertised. So if you were attracted to other boys to begin with, you sometimes got to make it with some pretty straight hunks. True, it could be a one-way relationship with no kissing, but that wasn’t always the case either. And some of these relationships lasted for several years — probably longer than some gay-gay relationships today. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…:)

This is a cultural phenomenon that began to die out in the late 1960s or early 1970s. Today, of course, many teenage girls not only look like sluts, they behave like them too. The straight boys can have their pick.

Since most of you posters here aren’t old enough to remember any of this, you probably think I’m making it up.
Posted: Feb 1, 2010 at 12:46 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 68 · Larry

@Dasher: I agree with Dasher. I’ve read about a very similar phenomenon happening in Saudi Arabia in The Atlantic, but they said it’s more like the sex that male prisoners have than the romantic love like genuinely gay men have.
Posted: Feb 1, 2010 at 1:49 am · @Reply · Flag?
No. 69 · Dasher

Back in the day, before the “Sexual Revolution” took place in the U.S. in the 1970s, teenagers who were attracted to other boys (today, we’d call them “gay teens”) had the potential for much more sex and much greater variety in sex partners. They weren’t restricted to other gay teens the way they are today. Things were therefore much better then, because straight boys looking for something beyond masturbation would seek you out. You didn’t have to risk getting punched out by making advances to them. They would come to you.

Some of these sexual relationships with straight teenagers amounted to nothing more than servicing them, and the instant they ejaculated, they would jump up and be on their way. I had one of those, but I also had what was for me the most wonderful romantic relationship I’ve ever had, including my first kiss. Wow, that boy sure could kiss. He was a year older than me, and ruggedly handsome. He was also very big down there, which could be a problem for me sometimes (I often overheard other boys talking about how big his cock was, or that it was uncut — I got to see it when it was erect and even bigger than what they saw). Sometimes, foreplay would last 20 minutes or so. I often think his wife should thank me for breaking him in.
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No. 70 · Cam

No. 69 · Dasher

And it never occured to you that all of those supposedly open minded straights that would seek you out and who ended up marrying women weren’t open minded straight guys, but are rather now, living sadly closeted lives with poor unfullfilled wives? I don’t avoid sex with women because I’m afraid of getting punched, I avoid it because it’s unappealing to me.
Posted: Feb 3, 2010 at 3:59 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 71 · Dasher

@70 — Cam — I can’t disagree with anything you say. I just don’t know how open minded or closeted anyone was in those days or afterwards; I wouldn’t have any way of measuring it. My guess is that people were more narrow-minded and closeted then.

My point was that things were much different then than they are today. Not that there’s anything wrong with today.
Posted: Feb 3, 2010 at 6:18 pm · @Reply · Flag?
No. 72 · luke

What a great dialogue. Really enjoyed reading through this thread. Most comment sections are worthless. This one really made me think. Thanks, guys
Posted: Feb 13, 2010 at 9:00 am · @Reply · Flag?

Non-Arabs; why do you like Arabs sexually?

See the full and original thread here: http://www.arab-gay.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=109

ButtyBoy
09-10-2007, 01:54 PM
I’d like to know why you (non-Arabs) like sex with Arabs so much. I think I already know (LOL), I’m just curious if your reasons are the same as mine :)
ptitprince
10-16-2007, 09:18 PM
I guess that because they are good looking, sexy, charming, viril, sensual. They are hot! Anyway, I never had experience with Arabs but they really look like being awesome :)
قرامطة
10-17-2007, 04:32 AM
رسالة خاصة
بس مع صورة
webmaster
10-17-2007, 06:46 AM
رسالة خاصة
بس مع صورة

Please speak English in this forum. Thanks.
قرامطة
10-19-2007, 06:32 AM
Im so soory , but nobady hear can spik Arabic ?
becuse Im not very good in English.
webmaster
10-19-2007, 02:41 PM
Im so soory , but nobady hear can spik Arabic ?
becuse Im not very good in English.

You can speak Arabic in this (http://www.arab-gay.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7) forum.
Indo_man
10-20-2007, 08:23 PM
hello, all. i am non arab, but arab men especially the hairy chest one attracts me so hard. and i dont know why
nafez
10-22-2007, 06:48 AM
I like the nice smooth tan skin dark hair and eyes..and they call them camel jockies for a reason ; )
geisha
10-28-2007, 01:12 PM
Wooo… this is an interesting topic, I like it! :D

Hi! I’m geisha from Singapore.
I’ve just joined the community and is relatively new here.

I’ve only realised recently that I’m madly in love with Arabian/Middle Eastern men… well, of course, I’ve never tried one yet, haha~ :p

But undeniably, Arabian/Middle Eastern men are generally: marcho, tall, dark, handsome, hairy… and bulky… and these are what I’m attracted to!

I’m seriously looking for an Arab boyfriend.
If any of you have any good suggestions to help in my search, please do not hesitate to advise me!

Thanks and have lots of fun!
geisha
azarab
10-28-2007, 05:20 PM
What I like about arabs… (as a non arab myself)
the colour of their dark brown eyes make me feel weak…
the colour and the smell of their skin make me wild…
their smiles makes me feel blue…
one touch and I feel lost…
eurolad
10-28-2007, 07:28 PM
Because of their virility… and hairiness.
smooth
11-11-2007, 03:24 AM
hello,all, i first went out with a Lebanese man a year or so back, and sexually he was the best looking, and nicest person, we are not together, due to a rather odd circumstance, but i have since only been with middleeastern men. they just have ”IT” love, smooth steve
DirtyKnees
11-18-2007, 07:50 PM
A fair question, but does anyone know why they are attracted to a specific type? For me maybe it’s the old opposites attract reason? I am blond, blue-eyed, smooth, Anglo-Saxon; Arab men are dark! Dark-eyed, dark skin, beautiful dark eyes, some are hairy, some are smooth (though I tend to go for the hairier ones), definite cultural differences which I always find attractive. The love of my life was Brasilian, but sadly he didn’t feel as strong for me as I did for him so it didn’t work out. However I made alot of Brasilian friends and learned Portugues and consider myself richer as a person for having had the experience and would gladly take the emotional risk with an Arab man too. And don’t you think Arabic is a beautiful language to hear too?
smooth
11-18-2007, 08:40 PM
hello DirtyKnees, i really must agree with what u said, i have dated a Puerto Rican man and a Lebanese man myself. a friend of mine, a hot Black man said that i like ”exotics” i guess he’s right, i am white smooth boy with a mix of English Irish French and Native American. love smooth steve
joha_2004
12-01-2007, 04:54 PM
i like arab men.
they’re are interesting person and very sexually attractive.
they look rough bu inside they’re are very sensitive.
and also they’re great x-factor that they are very good in bed like virility is their great skill.
i know for sure because because i have an arb boyfriend for about three years now.

ciao
smooth
12-01-2007, 11:05 PM
hi Joha, i really love Arab men,unfotunately my Lebanese bf. is no longer around. would love another mid east man ! they are the hottest, sexyest men! love smooth
sandrofantor
12-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Personally, it’s that typical Arabic macho charm that I fall for. My boyfriend has it too, that way of gently but powerfully (and not to be argued against) telling you that he’s gonna do you now and you can either make it hard or easy. It never fails to turn me on :D
hungrybutt
12-03-2007, 09:29 PM
of the few arabian lovers i had, i enjoyed very much their passion when it comes to kissing and making love. generally speaking, i think they have more interesting bodies, a much more intense smell from their skin, the skin colour also plays a role, and dark eyes are magic to me.

then, as a white european boy, i always enjoyed interesting company from people of different origin. there are so many things to talk to with these people. different backgrounds, different habits make every day more interesting when you hook up as partners. that is of course something, they share with african, asian, american people.

finally, arabian is a terribly sexy language that i could listen to for hours (interupted by kissing, by chance)
Afrasiyab
12-22-2007, 05:23 PM
i have to restrict the conception of Arab, i guess. I am interested in Tunisian and Kuwaiti guys only. Not the whole Arab georgraphy. Arabs sound exotic, i don’t know. I like Arabic, it sounds hot, especially that ‘ayn sound:P
Dalantis23
02-03-2008, 04:31 AM
I hope that my opinion as a half-Arab will be also interesting for all of u :)

In my opinion the matter of being attractive as an Arab boy is matter of being manful. Most of us, Arabs look and behave manfully, and I think that’s what make people (some ppl of course) crazy about us. Also – dark skin, black big eyes and and black hair make us more manfully-looking. It’s matter of kind of “macho look” I think… And hairy bodies, that some ppl (including me) like a lot…
Moreover – smell of the skin (anyone can explain me why Arabs smell so intensive (and hooot!!!!) ???)
And also – this kind of “I wanna do it with u now, babe !!!!”-behavior plays an interesting role here, hehehe :)
I had been flirted many times just coz of the reason that ppl in Europe know that I have Arabic origins, and that’s cool ;)
loveseeker
02-03-2008, 07:25 PM
What do I like about Arab men? I do not think their is enough room for me to write. I love their friendliness they always have a smile on their face and a hand extended for a hand shake, they do not hesitate to touch you when conversing, on the shoulder or the arm, Their smile is beautiful bright and full of life. They are ambitious and go getters, they do not wait for a problem to arise they prevent it before it happens. They are passionate in the bedroom and in their lifes, they also want to bring you the most pleasure when having sex with you nomatter hoe long it takes. They just have a energy and a zest for everything. Let me sum it up by telling you what Arab men do to my senses. My sense of sight, they are all so handsome, their dark eyes penitrate you to your soul, their dark hair, they usually have facial hair that drives me wild when in the throws of passion, their lips are full and inviting, their noses are beattiful you just want to kiss their faces all over, their hairy bodies ( most of them), Their beautiful cocks alway big and fat and as hard as a rock, and their carmel colored skin. My hearing, their voices are usually deep and sexy and their accents drive me wild especial when they are making love to youand telling you what they want, the sound of their balls slapping my ass when fucking me so hard. My sense of smell, they smell so good all the time usually wearing a sensuous colonge, but you can smell the exotic spice of their flesh and it draws you closer and closer to them it is an aphrodisiac. And Finally my sense of taste, their lips on mine and their tongue invading my mouth they taste so good, their cock has a flavor that can compare to no other, their ass taste wonderful too, but their cum is the best it is the nectar of the Gods, in the flavor you can taste the exotic Middle Eastern flavors of their diets, I could live on an Arab man’s cum alone. So my friends you can see that I have it real bad for Arab men, they are the BEST LOVERS and have ruined me for anyone else. I hope one day to find a arab man for a long term relationship, but i would settle for beng his mistress or even a quick fuck on the way home. I am quite flushed right now and must take care of business so I will talk to you hot Arab men later.
Michael
smooth
02-03-2008, 08:41 PM
dear Michael – your posting is so well put. i agree exactely with what you say, love steve
frnkly8
02-03-2008, 09:41 PM
I find arab men to be some of the sexiest and usually very well endowed and the one I was seeing was great in bed, he knew how to really make me glad I am a bottom. They can be passionate or rough depending how you want it.
tuogiocattol
02-03-2008, 10:02 PM
perchè l’Arabo ha una corporatura stupenda, forte, maschile, virile:)
Dalantis23
02-03-2008, 11:23 PM
Si – molto virile! :)

BTW – loveseeker – it’s sounds almost like a poem about Arab men, heheheh. I feel pround ;)
tuogiocattol
02-03-2008, 11:29 PM
It’s very kond you speak italian, yes arab men are fantastics, they have a lovely great dick and a chest formidable like you
Dalantis23
02-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Si – vivo nella Grecia – tutti parlano italiano nell questo pease, ahahah :) Ma non so che possiamo parlare italiano aqui, in questo forum. Forse solo inglese e arabo, heh.
tuogiocattol
02-03-2008, 11:43 PM
yes i think is right to speak english here, but i speak not well… my dream is that an arab man fuck me
homeguy6
02-20-2008, 01:15 AM
Arab men are obviously sexy, at least to me; intellegent, dark, most of all HAIRY.
davidf36
03-02-2008, 10:25 AM
I love the look of Arab men. I remember staying in an hotel in Marrakesh, and one of the waiters came to my room several times, and I sucked his cock. I still have his picture in my bedroom.
tuogiocattol
03-02-2008, 11:57 AM
well, I was in Jerusalem when I meet an Arab man, name is Rauf. I was out of my bangalow to whash my slip… and I dressing only a nightgown… he came to me and said in Italian “mangi bianco” (you eat with?) I didn’t understend at the moment… he said ” I can help you?” and he went in my room… he take off his dick and told me “eat” and with was the sperm….It was fantastic…. ciao sorry for my english
smooth
03-02-2008, 01:45 PM
nothing like middle eastern men ,so nice ,so sweet …………love smooth steve
arab_lover
03-08-2008, 12:29 PM
Hi all – I am asian – I like Arabs based on their looks. They are so masculine – very good lookin (not all)! hahaha. Also – their hairy body gets my libido going. Unfortunately – some smell bad and it turns me right off. Still want to try one though!
loveseeker
03-08-2008, 02:19 PM
This message goes to the Australian asian so called “arab lover”. I think your comments were made in poor taste. They were extremely rude, shallow, disrespectful, immature, ignorant, and most definitely made by a superficial, self scented, conceited little asshole.
This site is dedicated to Arab men and the men who love them. Where do you get off making such comments. You are cleared and uneducated juvenile who should keep her opinions to herself. Think about it you just came to an Arabic site dedicated to Arab men and men who love them and just insulted an entire race based on what you said.
Imagine this if you can, that i would go to a web site for men who like asian men and were to say I would like to try asian men but they are all short, own laundries, and all have small cocks. But i want to try one just to say i tried one.
smooth
03-08-2008, 02:27 PM
to love seeker- this is from another ARABIC lover-i could not agree more with what you said , love smooth steve
geisha
04-01-2008, 05:39 PM
Hello to loveseeker and smooth:

Yes, I know I’m Asian… but I can’t help it but to support the both of u!!!
I’m madly in love with Arab men in every way they are, so I do feel the same insult from “arab lover”… and why on earth would someone call himself an “arab lover” when in actual fact u don’t really love them, was this meant to be an insult or another joke also? And what’s about the Asian-Australian status? So u’re an Asian residing in Australia or what? And how do u feel being an Asian in Australia, b’cos I’ve heard so much horrid stories of how racist some native Australians are and how they hate Asians in Australia! Oh my, to start with u’re oh-so confused! :confused:

I’m definitely Asian, a Chinese from Singapore (b’cos Singapore is in Southeast Asia) in fact… but how would I to describe an Asian to all of u non-Asians here… :rolleyes:
Well, I’m not tan like what u think people from Thailand are (Thailand is also part of Southeast Asia). I’m not short at all, I’m 1.78m and I’m lean and fair… or should I say I look more like those people in Hongkong, Taiwan or Japan.
But one thing I must admit… the probability of getting an Asian man with huge dick is not as high as one from the Middle East!!!

Hope everyone is enlightened now! ;)
Geisha
duhleenkwint
04-02-2008, 09:05 AM
Most of the posts on here mention specific physical traits, but not what drew them to those traits in the first place. With me, it’s my mom’s fault! My parents (liberal Jews) made friends with our new neighbor, a half-Palestinian half-Persian man who’d had a very hard life. His wife and son were killed in the Lebanese civil war, and although he looked VERY fit and muscular, he had a bad heart condition and back problems. My mom made me go help him around the house. At first I resented it. I hated the idea of having to mow TWO lawns. But then as I got to know him, I was fascinated. He would cook me the most mysterious and delicious food, and going into his house was like entering another world, with exotic furniture, books, and art I’d never seen before in typical USA suburbia. He was flattered by my curiosity, and would explain everything he could about his home in Lebanon, Persian culture, and all that gorgeous nonrepresentational art. I loved his thick black eyelashes, those deep sensitive eyes, and the way he spoke, with those hardened R’s and softened V’s, and then one day, WHAM!! I saw him nude. He had thrown his back out trying to get out of the bath. Nothing ever sexual happened, but that was not only when I knew for sure that I loved men, but THAT kind of guy was forever imprinted on my sexual aesthetic.
ButtyBoy
04-02-2008, 09:36 AM
Hi there duhleenkwint! It was very interesting to read what it was that drew you to the kind of guys you (and I) like. Lovely story. Being open to other cultures is a great thing. Your post is making me wonder how I myself became interested in the type of guys that I like. I don’t really have the answer right now. I probable forgot about it, but there must be something. You defenately gave me something to think about for today!
smooth
04-02-2008, 01:34 PM
yes ,i agree, great story, i’ll think of your story ,today too
daold
04-03-2008, 01:08 PM
Middle eastern men (the one i met) are loving, sexy, hung and will do anything for you.

I would love to find another Arab that will want to have a lasting relationship..

Know any in Brisbane Australia, then let me know =)
xboom3r
04-26-2008, 06:42 PM
They’re viril like latinos ;)
maturelondon
04-27-2008, 02:00 PM
usually they are quite shy when talking about sex or in the emails … but in the bedroom they enjoy long foreplay and they keep it going for a long time :) what else to wish for ….?
kalakala1414
04-27-2008, 02:12 PM
Arab Men tends to be hairy and sexy and I LOVE THAT!
KRUZKY
04-27-2008, 04:00 PM
Because Arab men fuck like real men.
nikazman
04-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Love their big cock and hairy bodies…very hot and aggressive top…all night fuck..
maturelondon
04-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Hi again Nik, some arab men I met are only mildly hairy. Not all are bears …
My experience mainly gulf (UAE) men. And it is true, they have great stamina, being hard long long time
smooth
04-28-2008, 07:42 PM
hi guys ,my best lover was LEBANESE,he was 9” and thick ,fairly smooth,cut cock, but damn ,i ain’t never had anyone better ,before or since,what stamina,,,,,,and could shoot loads of sweet cum………
maturelondon
04-28-2008, 07:47 PM
no doubt one of the things i enjoyed more with my arab lovers was their stamina … and being horny and ready all times for steamy sex
nikazman
04-28-2008, 10:03 PM
And when they fuck they are really enjoy it and love it when they ejaculate powerfully hard inside and such sexy sound too…
smooth
04-28-2008, 10:05 PM
and the wonderful scent of their sexy bodies………sweet…….
nikazman
04-28-2008, 10:09 PM
love the spicy smell…musky sweaty body afterwards…
pelonsgv
04-29-2008, 01:48 AM
Arab Men are erxtremely hot!!!!!
As a latino…………I prefer a dark skin hairy man
geisha
05-09-2008, 06:26 PM
Hey! U guys are making me to want an Arab guy more than ever!!!

Arrrh! Help!
Geisha
ttravis69
05-10-2008, 10:46 PM
Hot, hot, hot!
nomorefishin
05-15-2008, 05:28 PM
I don’t think I can list any additional reasons beyond what’s been listed in previous posts.

:p
London_
05-15-2008, 08:28 PM
Arab men, simply sexyyy…!!
sony15
05-18-2008, 10:52 PM
I like them very much. They are so heavy!
nomorefishin
05-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Arabic tops… get me every time. Never been with one, unfortunately.

I remember goin’ out to the clubs where there would be large groups of them. Oh man…. so nice…
heinz57v
05-19-2008, 01:19 AM
I like Arab men because I have found them to be very sensual in the bedroom and great dancers who manage to entice and express sexuality without being feminine like many gay men in the west who think that to be sexy or sensual they have to copy women. Men are allowed to kiss male friends on the cheek and dance with their male friends in ways that aren’t common in northern European and Anglo cultures. Straight men are allowed more expression of affection for male friends and this allows for a sense of male sexuality that to my mind is more organic and natural much as how homosexuality was practiced in the Ancient west in Greece and Rome. What we have in Europe and America and the wider Anglo-world is something different born out of the conservatism of protestant reformation and the counter-reformation which exerts the idea that men are to deny any sexual emotions on the surface as are women to a lesser degree and that affection is unmanly and a sign of weakness. As that social world view started collapsing Victorian era mores revived them as did the return to innocence that happened in America post WWII which is why to this day in progressively less strictness these attitudes persist causing young homosexuals to associate affection, artistic appreciation, and a host of other culture things to be the meaning of gay which has nothing to do with being a man who loves men but ahs more to do with social conditioning of what it means to be a man. I find gay Arabs are more free from these roles- I find they don’t feel the need to fit into a gay culture in order to express their love for other men.
vusinkosi
05-19-2008, 12:09 PM
I am black and Arab men seem to really what to get me inside them

Have other black men found this?

Vusi
atha72
05-20-2008, 01:11 AM
because an arab men can be a really MEN and they are great fu…ers:D:D
brahms67
06-15-2008, 02:34 PM
good news to hear i adore
qatu83
06-16-2008, 06:35 AM
skin color, kind of a forbidden fruit deal
geisha
06-16-2008, 06:46 PM
Yes brahms67!

We all adore your race here, your people are sexy lovers! ;)

My kisses to Arabs!
Geisha
mark529h
08-03-2008, 08:33 PM
i like arab men because they are just sexy. i think one of the most attractive thing is how many are very hairy. i also like the darker toned skin and the overall personality of the men i have met.
beurs
08-04-2008, 06:56 PM
I like arab men because they seem to be very animalistic. Very hairy and therefore very sexy !
94170400
08-05-2008, 06:03 AM
no reason for me~
xq28
08-05-2008, 09:28 PM
mmmm..
i used to dated locals. and arabs will be my new experience if i have one. if we can get what’s out of the box, one of our fantasies, then i won’t waste my time..

and physically, arabs, are hotter… and their size are legendary. unvulnerable. lol…
fghfgh0000
08-08-2008, 10:45 AM
WOW I Like this website !
nhtj
08-08-2008, 05:56 PM
Arab men are so handsom and maskuline. I know
murdoch1967
08-08-2008, 07:53 PM
I can’t add anything new to this thread but totally agree with all you other guys.
Almani
08-08-2008, 09:42 PM
I like guys that do not look like most of the guys I see all over the day. So for me I would say it’s the “exotic aspect”…
Almani
08-08-2008, 09:43 PM
and of course… arabs are just looking sooo damn hot ;)
dirrrtyboy
08-09-2008, 12:45 AM
A fair question, but does anyone know why they are attracted to a specific type? For me maybe it’s the old opposites attract reason? I am blond, blue-eyed, smooth, Anglo-Saxon; Arab men are dark! Dark-eyed, dark skin, beautiful dark eyes, some are hairy, some are smooth (though I tend to go for the hairier ones), definite cultural differences which I always find attractive. The love of my life was Brasilian, but sadly he didn’t feel as strong for me as I did for him so it didn’t work out. However I made alot of Brasilian friends and learned Portugues and consider myself richer as a person for having had the experience and would gladly take the emotional risk with an Arab man too. And don’t you think Arabic is a beautiful language to hear too?

no, not really :) lol
fundude79
08-10-2008, 12:47 PM
arabs are sexy. they have a sexy color.. long dicks hairy manly. intense in sex. they are cutey too
shinj
08-11-2008, 04:37 AM
I also like the dark skin and especially the hairy bodies…..yum
dumb_dummy
08-11-2008, 04:36 PM
Arabs men are very masculine and have sharp features tat really turn me on!
mightbe
08-11-2008, 06:49 PM
I guess my friend Faraj has the most awesome body. He has a bubble butt that you could rest a can of pepsi on. I have stared at it for 6 years. There is nothing more that I would like is to spend an evening pleasing him. His feet are so different than any other man I have ever been with. His dick has to be 9 plus. I wish to be with a man like him someday.
rikkie
08-11-2008, 09:19 PM
I like arab men for theis strong features their hairy bodys
ButtyBoy
08-11-2008, 11:41 PM
Funny, most of the Arabs I know are not hairy at all.
smooth
08-11-2008, 11:45 PM
yeah ,,,the ones i’ve known here in usa ,,were not very hairy either ,,,plus there were a couple who shaved their pubes and balls smooth
ButtyBoy
08-11-2008, 11:54 PM
Yeah most guys I know shave their pubes and balls very thoroughly and frequently. They always take good care of themselves and are very hygienic. I like that.
FatPapiNY
08-12-2008, 07:43 AM
Almani I agree with you completely. I love the bronze, brown and darker shades and features of the Arab men. To me they are very masculine. I need an Arab boyfriend now!
smooth
08-12-2008, 04:03 PM
funny ,the ones i’ve known were actually rather light skinned,,,,ecept for one egyptian,,he was rather dark,,big too ,,,very tall and masculine
spatrick1234
08-15-2008, 01:40 PM
I’ll be pretty honest. As a man who likes other men, I am attracted to men who look nothing like me. I am white with blond hair and blue eyes. I don’t want to date a mirror image of myself. So in general men with darker features and dark eyes (swoon) flip my switch. :)
geisha
08-15-2008, 04:27 PM
I’ll be pretty honest. As a man who likes other men, I am attracted to men who look nothing like me. I am white with blond hair and blue eyes. I don’t want to date a mirror image of myself. So in general men with darker features and dark eyes (swoon) flip my switch. :)

I totally agree with u spatrick1234!
U’ve truly explained why I’m always looking out for men of other colors except my own race… hmmm, but no offence here, I’m not a racist either.

Love ;)
Geisha
TomIN
08-16-2008, 03:43 PM
I like Arab men for their dark skin and sexy bodies.
rikkie
08-18-2008, 07:21 PM
I love arabs beause they have big hairy dicks
johnny
08-18-2008, 08:45 PM
Arabs are very manly en have a nice brown skin. thats what i like about arab man.:)
andre
08-19-2008, 02:09 AM
arabs are hot like us, latins
KRUZKY
08-19-2008, 02:49 AM
The Arab guys I’ve had sex with were all the best. They all said they were str8. They all fucked my throat and ass like a man who hadn’t gotten any for a long time and needed it bad. They all pounded the the fuck out of me; deposited their loads; and left. Hot!
topboy
08-19-2008, 04:17 AM
I agree – another blonde – blue eyed whitey…..I’m always drawn to darker, latin, arab, black guys…
volimv
08-20-2008, 04:49 PM
I like arabs because of their color of skin (not black and not white) just great color, and I like them because I think that they have a great cock and they are usually verry hairry.
Ofcourse not all arabs loking great but origin arabs without mix marrigies are very very handsome
scarlet
08-23-2008, 02:41 AM
arab men are more manly, sexy, have lovely coloured skin and no how to service another guy..

whats better than an arab man….two arab men..mmmmmmm
leanguy21
08-23-2008, 04:39 PM
They are masculine, friendly, macho!!
dallascub
08-24-2008, 04:23 AM
For me, Arab men seem to exude pure masculinity. Alot of my attraction is the hairy chests and legs. HUGE weakness for this cub.
Vizier_Aken
08-24-2008, 05:16 AM
To be honest, I really don’t know! I mean, I’m kind of picky with my guys, but something about Arab men tend to turn me on. I’ve yet to actually have one though, since there really aren’t a lot of arabs in my part :the kind that sticks out toward his chest when his arms are relaxed down at his sides. I get turned on during the fuckyahoo.com … :-)
Scott747
02-07-2009, 08:40 PM
Hey man, don’t forget that slavery is illegal – even in Jordan. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind exploring some ancient practices with you. LOL!!
ArabicTop
02-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Hey man, don’t forget that slavery is illegal – even in Jordan. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind exploring some ancient practices with you. LOL!!

I love to own slaves ,,,,, I can not help it … lol .. but anyways .. my farm well be privet :-)

welcome in sexy slave :-)
Scott747
02-07-2009, 10:03 PM
You got it baby!!! Anytime you want! Thanks for welcoming me to your farm. Hope I live up to your expectations!!!
SwimBod
02-13-2009, 01:38 PM
oh well, for one thing, Arab men have thick ones :)

but I am top ……. but i enjoy playng the dick and balls and better still when I enter their hot butts
matt1981
02-14-2009, 03:00 AM
i agree with SwimBob that most i’ve met do have larger (and thicker) cocks than do most guys. but i like them because they are never afraid to vocalize their cries and screams as they suffer the pain of penetration and then take the hard and deep thrusting that i like to make rough and brutal, especially after i cross that point of no return and really start using their body to masturbate my cock. i love their clean sweaty smell as they take the fuck, and even enjoy licking and sucking on their sweaty armpit hair.
SwimBod
02-14-2009, 06:07 AM
very graphic :)
duan92100
02-17-2009, 01:51 PM
Because they have thick cut cocks. I like cut cocks and big cock head.
SwimBod
02-19-2009, 07:58 AM
yup they have thick cut cocks…

Mine’s uncut and thick too but Asian meat
omarri
02-20-2009, 01:25 PM
:) hello evrybody i am here
Summerwind
02-20-2009, 06:21 PM
Good evening!
eugene
02-21-2009, 09:29 AM
Its really one of my dreams to have sex with an arab guy..they give me the thrill that i really cant explain. Maybe because of the sexual mystery that the poses….oozing with hotness and ahhhhssss!! Hope i could find one here..and i promise to give him a really hot experience to…cause im a certified good cock sucker and loved being fucked hard!!;)
Xerxes
02-23-2009, 09:07 AM
I love Arab men because they are “in charge”. They want what they want and they expect me to give it to them (and I do!). They don’t want a lot of words and talking and explaining, just rough, hard forceful sex. They leave me feeling like I’ve been used in a very helpful way to making a man happy and healthy and free of entanglements. I can smell them on me after they have left me to clean up, and I can smile all afternoon and night. With luck, they’ll come back again, but no promises. They definitely make me crazy with lust, and could easily worship the ground they walk on. Arabs can turn me into a fetish freak overnight.
tathens
03-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Because I travel to the Middle East a few times each year and these men are such delicious looking forbidden fruit.
Scott747
04-12-2009, 06:51 PM
Actually I don’t think that Arab men are all that different from anyone else — at least those who are really gay. they have the same issues, problems and hangups that we all do — with the extra special difficulty of living (some of them) in countries that are not all that sympathetic to their condition, as it were.
rikkie
04-12-2009, 08:05 PM
I like arabs. They are beautyful, black haired men. Aspecially the truly gay arabs . They are in a difficult position so they need special support
allberto
04-14-2009, 03:16 AM
i just like just cocks:) no matter cut or not:)
grethomory
04-15-2009, 05:55 AM
i just like just cocks:) no matter cut or not:)

me too on that one, :tongue:
Openhatch
04-25-2009, 02:09 PM
ever since I saw the Movie Sex Bazaar , I have been attracted to arab men, the dark eyes, nig dicks and the commandinf attitude..bot would have been in heaven with those three guys in the steam….taking turns at me and coverinf me with their hot thick jizz.
getting hard just thinking about it.
darrel arans
04-25-2009, 06:21 PM
i love them because they never loose track of their manhood. if he is a true top-you can “take it to the bank” he will never for any reason be anything but a top. i love the arabic languages also, and yes how sexy and earthy the men are.
Mike_Atlanta
05-03-2009, 12:40 PM
I like the beautiful color of their skin, their jet black hair and those wonderful deep dark eyes that can see right into the heart of my soul, not to mention the rest of their bodies! Keep those arabic men coming ! I love ‘em!
nudebranch
05-03-2009, 01:34 PM
There is this unexplainable magnetism that Arabs draws me to them. Hoping to meet one someday.
darrel arans
05-03-2009, 02:35 PM
i lived in turkey a few years and dated an arab man there. turkey is not an arab nation-but i was lucky to find him there on buisness. me in my uniform and him dark and beautiful with his lovely smile, dark hair, beautiful white smile and penetrating eyes, caused my heart to swell the first time we met. his english was not good-and my arabic was even worse, but when there is an attraction you somehow learn to get around the language thing. we dated for 2 yrs until i left and it was the saddest day of my life. of course the sex was more than great! but one thing i learned and must advise about arab men; they are very much men. they are prideful of their culture and demand respect-especially from a lover. me being a bottom i had no problem whatsoever in submitting to him in every way or giving him the respect he commanded. there were times that when he spoke to me in english or arabic i understood my place with him. he was loving, caring but forceful in his manners towards me. when he wanted sex-i didn’t understand the word or words in his language-nor did he in english, but each time, when he would grab my ass and i would stroke the bulge in his pants-we both understood the meaning of what he needed and what i wanted. his sex was strong and at times very painful but i grew to love his way of taking me down and getting the very best of what i had to offer him. our parting has stayed with me for years now and if i could find him i’d do just about anything to have him back. i guess that is why i am so passionate about arab men. i’ve gotten to the point that i don’t want any other “race” of man for sex or as a lover. i guess like the saying goes, “stick with what you know best”. i’d add-stick with what you love best, and for me i’m totally in love with the arab man.

darrel arans:heart:
cuteboy22
05-25-2009, 12:29 AM
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cuteboy22
05-25-2009, 12:31 AM
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webmaster
05-25-2009, 12:43 AM
cuteboy22; please post with some more consideration..
Xerxes
05-25-2009, 08:30 AM
Arab men have an extra dose of testosterone in their blood. It makes them seem to ooze the sexual heat. You can smell it, see it, taste it and feel it. While getting fucked by an Arab man, all I can think of is GIVING it to him, whatever he wants, as hard as he wants to slam it to me. I don’t know of any other race or type of men who are so smoulderingly sexy.
matt1981
05-26-2009, 10:18 AM
just to feel him inside me, using my body to masturbate his cock, sweating on me with the scent of armpit and crotch sweat, making the hot and humid room reek of man-to-man sex. i love feeling all that thick and curly body hair rubbing against my skin and feeling his pubes grind into my ass when he impales me on it and makes me feel him full measure inside my body. the masculine smell from his thick sweaty armpit hair drives me up the wall with lust and desire. i welcome the pain of penetration and the jolts of sharp thrusting pain as he pounds my ass unmercifully.riding me rough and brutal, working toward his release.
1thatseeks
06-06-2009, 08:15 AM
my response probably wont be a slice of raunchy delights like other forumers have posted. i’m not sure why it is i am attracted to mid eastern men( arab, persian, afghan etc) although i have very little direct contact with them. i feel strangely drawn them, the language, the various cultures, the history etc. simply, there are so many things i find fascinating about them. with respect to the physique, its the swarthy to copper tones in their skin, the deep penetrating eyes they have, the carpet of hairy deliciousness that cloaks their slightly stocky bodies. the beard that may adorn their face.the smile that can hook and sink anyone. Naturally i’m drawn to hairy older guys so that could be it too. sometimes when i see an arab man in a thobe or gallabaya, an infatuation over comes me, leaving me weak in his presence. i also feel overcome with sexual fervor as my eyes try to find evidence of the nudity that lies underneath the thin sheen of fabric that is the thobe, searching for the sway and swing of the delightfully sweet bulge that lies in between, something that i long for since my early youth. i dream for the day that i may get know on personally the feel the embrace of masculinity.

It could be their presence, the feeling of omnious comfort i recieve by simply walking by…or the 1000 and 1 question that race through head. or the fantasies that are conjured through the slightest sight of one.
gaussiemale
06-06-2009, 12:00 PM
mmm … why do i like Arab men??? Easy … they are so MANLY and DOMINANT!!!! i go weak at the knees at the mere thought of them … they’re HOT!!!
ourson819
07-05-2009, 06:13 PM
Arabian men are simply the most beautiful, perfect men…I have never meet a man that can carry himself like an Arab man.
Pure beauty, to look, touch…fell inside you!!!
Love an Arab man, and you will never go back!
vicbeach
07-06-2009, 04:29 AM
i am an attractive gay arab man living in ottawa and i enjoy getting together with non arab guys and giving them the most pleasure possible. get back to me…..maybe we can get together and i can give you the ecstasy you desire……..i am very well endowed and know how to use it!!!!
ourson819
07-06-2009, 05:13 AM
You should call me.
Can you accommodate? I just got 2 tennants here, today, so cannot for 3 weeks…I will not last that long knowing you are just accross the river…

Francois

819-360-4437
xxlforyou
07-07-2009, 11:53 AM
hello,this is alan from london,i have always liked arab men very much,they are unique for me,and good fun to be with
Jamer
07-07-2009, 04:28 PM
I feel atract to arab guys because they’re different to the guy that I am for example. My familly it’s an half from morocco but I’m blond with blue eyes…so all my friends are the typical arab guys. I know that they like guys like me ( for example again) I have 3 exboyfriends arabs and allways was the same …I was looking for dark skind guys they were looking for white guys.
they are much better when they are open mind ( here in my city there are lot of arabs but the just fuck with guys like an entertaiment. They use to say that they are not gays…so I like arabs guys with a touch of occidental vision.
WhiteBttm52
07-08-2009, 03:12 PM
I love the dark eyes and macho attitude. The hairy chest and legs and the way they treat a bottom is the best. Arab men are just the sexiest men around. The men I have met are very nice and thoughtful but also very much in control and i love that.
Brightraven
07-20-2009, 05:28 PM
I think that underlying everything is that ALL Arabic men have a love and respect for their own sex which is unique; none of them think it ’strange’ to kiss or hug a male friend in public as it is considered in other less enlightened cultures. Therefore, there is no ‘quantum leap’ whatsoever in the Muslim world between male platonic love and sexual expression – Often it is a much more natural evolution than in the guilt-ridden, sin-obsessed, occidental cultures where that one small step used to be regarded with righteous, hypocritical horror. Plus of course, there is the mystic, subtle, hidden apsects of sex, hidden behind pure white linen and cotton, where golden skin peeps through, bedecked with dark, glistening hairs! . These Arab men could not be more sensual if they tried! – This NATURAL hidden aspect is what wins everyone over in the end; forget the pinch-tight Levis and the clammy designer T-shirts trying to ripple up a couple of muscles! – They are NOTHING in comparison to the traditional Arab clothes and the utter sensuality of those who wear them!
smooth
07-20-2009, 05:40 PM
your above post is one of the most insightfull artickles ,,,to me u capture the very essence of maleness of the arabic man,,,,,,,,,
Brightraven
07-20-2009, 05:52 PM
Thank you so much! – I should also add, as a child I was intoduced to my father’s sister’s Egyptian husband from Cairo. Sadly, he died in his early 50’s from leukaemia … but I can assure you, this man, in the few hours in all when I had been with him on his infrequent trips to London, showed more love, concern and interest in me than my own father did in all his life! RESPECT, in the end … despite all the incessant negative propaganda being shovelled down our throats … is what makes an Arab stand out … They WANT you to enjoy and appreciate them!
smooth
07-20-2009, 06:09 PM
your last line THEY want you to enjoy and appreciate them ,,,,,,so true in my own life ,,,ive found the same thing my bf was allways more concerned with my pleasure too ,,,he was a lovely lebanese man ,
Brightraven
07-20-2009, 06:23 PM
I am so sorry you are saying your boyfriend ‘was’ always concerned with your pleasure! – I have to assume you lost him somehow … But for sure, as you are a man who DOES appreciate the Arabic man, a beautiful man will come and love you again. – I am hoping for it to happen the first time round; even at my late stage of life (67!) … The problem is I already did the father-role thing with a Spanish boy 27 years younger for 8 years. – It tired me out! … Now a beautiful young Saudi Arabian fellow, not in the gay scene at all, wants to claim me! I just don’t know if destiny is going to turn our dreams into reality yet; only time will tell! – But here again is respect, this young fellow constantly declares his love for me; hardly a day goes by when he doesn’t tell me! God bless your Lebanese friend, wherever he is.
ourson819
07-25-2009, 03:42 AM
Very simply, arab men are very sexual in life…The way they move, talk, look…Very sexy, sensual.
I dream of finishing my life in the arms…or other positions…of an arab man.
Pure pleasure, know what they want, and how to get it!!!

Love you all!!:heart::wink_smile:
xxlforyou
07-25-2009, 10:43 AM
maybe because gay sex is forbidden in the arab world the senseof danger,or excitement this causes enhances arab sex,it certainly ranks high in th world
Brightraven
07-25-2009, 11:23 AM
Yes … There is a a very valid point just raised … Here in the West there is no sense of restraint whatsoever … cum-an-go is the order of the day. – That means that fleeting sexual gratification is only of the moment, with no thought at all of the value, or hardly even the true consideration of the beauty, of the man in your arms. – Always with one eye on the NEXT conquest! Where there IS restraint, everything is much more intense and much more valued and given much more worth.
WhiteBttm52
07-25-2009, 04:39 PM
I agree that is a big part of it. Since it is more difficult to meet someone there is more passion… and of course the men are all so hot just to begin with. Just looking at Arab men gets me excited. I can hardly wait til I can go visit.
ourson819
07-26-2009, 11:51 PM
to vicbeach: I would trullly enjoy spending time with you.
Give me a call, the tennants are gone…Home is open…
Ciao ciao bello!!
matt1981
07-27-2009, 09:48 AM
the thick bushy hair under their arms, at their crotch and on their chest. when they get all wet and sweaty during the fuck, all that thick black hair under their arms gets matted and tangled in swirls to their skin and spreads out over a larger area of their underarms and sides. the masculine sweaty smell from their armpit hair is introxicating and they make the entire room reek with the smells of man-to-man sex – that masculine smell of armpit and crotch sweat. it drives me up the wall and all i want to do is lick, suck and chew on his sweaty thick armpit hair – taste it inside my mouth and smell him. totally awesome!
ButtyBoy
07-27-2009, 01:11 PM
It’s funny how many people seem to like Arabs for their bodyhair, while others (like me) love the hairless Arabs. I mainly have experienced Moroccan guy and most of them were very smooth and I really love that.
sahero88
08-02-2009, 06:22 PM
is richer than the smell it leaves the screws, because the milk accumulated in the thick hair of ass gives a nice smell sex …. I enjoy a lot when they fucks
giannigeile
08-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Well their slim build, beautiful skin and graceful movements

eyes to die fore, lashes 4ever and hair well cared for

sexuality in everything they do, look and move

also something mysterious

anything else?

Yes their cocks

enough?

giannigeile
Angelboy1269
09-10-2009, 11:46 PM
Arabs are really fun and HOTT!!
Angelboy1269
09-11-2009, 12:29 AM
Are Arabs better lovers than others?
darthhaxor
09-16-2009, 11:43 PM
All the arabs I have seen have thick cocks and I really really really like that. and they seem to cum alot, which I also like alot.
ourson819
09-16-2009, 11:48 PM
I wish I could find such a man in my area…It is the capital of Canada…Must one or a few arab men in here who would like to either make love, or fuck the hell out of me…
And yes, arab men are great lovers…
sahero88
09-17-2009, 05:42 AM
and have not flavor the hairy ass are wealthy Arab loa by hairy, and you can shave them give them with you tongue.
marko80
09-17-2009, 08:04 AM
ther are so many reasons, why, i as an non arab, like arab guys, there dark skin, dark hair, dark eyes, great built, they are macho….
i can go on and on…..
matt1981
09-17-2009, 09:33 AM
hairy chests, as well as hairy armpits and a large triangle of thick and curly black hair at their crotch is a huge turn-on to me! especailly when they get all wet and sweaty in a hot and horny fuck session, where the entire room just reeks with the smells of man-to-man sex – those masculine smells of armpit and crotch sweat. makes me crazy with lust and desire.
granja
09-17-2009, 02:50 PM
Mostly because……….(something that has not been said on this forum before.)….. they are, in general, wonderful , honest, open, generous, loving, clean, trustworthy, people. I have lived in the Middle East and North Africa for a good number of years, and I have met, loved and been loved by many types of Arabs. I am proud to say that I have friends from nearly all the Arabic countries, and if I had to single out my favourites, it would be too difficult to choose.
Firstly each end every one is a human being and not a piece of meat, if you offer your hand in friendship it will be accepted….and treasured. Sure some of them are poor and others rich, in any society we get those differances, but in my opinion , having met and enjoyed the company and companionship of Arabs from all of the economic and social spectrums, I can honestly say that its not a question of colour or macho or any of those superficial reasons. They simply are the most gentle, kind, strong and enthusistic lovers on the planet. I think an extraordinary fact about most Arabs guys is the fact that the vast majority of them are secure enough in their sexuality to do it with another guy without being “labelled”. Also a lot depends upon which country they are from. The guys from the Gulf will treat you as a best friend,and love you both in and out of bed whereas the guys from North Africa see you as more of a means to an end……. But still if you are patient and kind to them they will reward you with their friendship and affection.
Sure, if you just want sex, then consider that they too may feel exactly the same and treat you…………….as a peice of meat.!
TransGirl.nl
09-19-2009, 12:45 AM
Because I don’t like the alternatives LOL
davezgz
09-19-2009, 06:19 PM
I like arab boys because they are amazingly good looking and their sensuality is awesome….any arab boy please contact me¡¡
maceov
09-21-2009, 01:24 AM
Personally, I love Arab men for their unbridled passion, honesty and breathtaking bodies. They are passionate kissers, amazing lovers, and know how to work their big cocks into a VERY appreciative pretty boy. They are also sweet, thoughtful and oh-so-appreciative that they are getting their cocks rocked, licked, sucked and fucked.
hetfi
09-21-2009, 01:13 PM
Because I don’t like the alternatives LOL

Straight to the Point
LOL :shades_smile:
wray
10-10-2009, 01:58 PM
Not all Arabs are hot and sexy. However many are. The ones I have met and experienced are usually well travelled, well educated, speak English as well as Arabic, have masculine sporting interests like me, don’t drink too much and absolutely love hot sex and love to do anything in bed. opposites attract!
smooth
10-10-2009, 02:16 PM
hi thats a very well written post ,,,u r exactely right ,,,,i had a wonderfull affair with a very nice lebanese man ,,,he was well educated ,,,spoke fluent french english and arabic,,,but most of all was his infectious smile ,,,his beautiful green eyes ,,,,of course he was a marvelous lover too ,but he will always be in my heart,,,,as well . i never have had a lover such as him before or since , un fortunately hes now gone from my life ,,,,,but i’ll never forget him,,,,,,,,,,,,,
eltrasgo
10-13-2009, 08:20 PM
They are masculine,good looking,big eyes,cut cocks
German_in_US
10-14-2009, 06:10 AM
Maybe it is because in Arabic culture it’s ok to be affectionate towards men. Sometimes it nice to be in a culture where you can hug on your friends and be close to your male friends in public. That’s what attracts me to Arabic men

By the way, Being gay is not just about sex. There are sexy people in all cultures. Being gay is more about who you are able to fall in love with and whom that you want to be your you life mate.
It’s sad that most gays from the west who come to these sites only see a cock and not the person it belongs to.
wray
10-14-2009, 12:02 PM
German has another interesting possibility.

I appreciate the difference in male friednship in ME/Gulf to that of western world:tongue:

TransGirl.nl
10-17-2009, 02:17 AM
It’s sad that most gays from the west who come to these sites only see a cock and not the person it belongs to.

This is very true
forthbridge
10-19-2009, 08:40 PM
I like my Arab frends for a lot of reasons. Mostly they don’t drink alcohol or if they do they don’t get drunk. They are clean, if you taste their dick you are not put off because it has not been washed. They are affectionate. They don’t rush away as soon as they have fucked you, they will stay holding you and talking afterwards. Also important for me many of them like older fatter men and show it when you are in bed together.
smooth
10-19-2009, 09:24 PM
yeah what u say forthbridge is so true ,,,in my situation too ,,,,i’m a chubby older white guy who had a lebanese bf ,,,he was about 35 ,,,i’m 55 ,,,he was so sweet and affectionate ,,and unlike american guys he loved my chubbyness and everything ,,,,,we are not together now for other reasons ,,,,,,but he was the love of my life ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ButtyBoy
10-26-2009, 12:16 AM
yeah what u say forthbridge is so true ,,,in my situation too ,,,,i’m a chubby older white guy who had a lebanese bf ,,,he was about 35 ,,,i’m 55 ,,,he was so sweet and affectionate ,,and unlike american guys he loved my chubbyness and everything ,,,,,we are not together now for other reasons ,,,,,,but he was the love of my life ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I don’t mean this in a bad way smooth, but I have been reading about your ex Libanese friend for years now in these forums. Isn’t it time for you to move on? I’m sure that he has moved on by now? Again, I don’t mean it in a bad way. I hope you get what I’m saying? You’ve gotta live now, no-one else is gonna do it for ya!
smooth
10-26-2009, 12:32 AM
yeah hes moved on to jail,,thanks for your kind thoughtfull words,,,i’m sure u mean well though
ourson819
11-09-2009, 04:59 AM
Very nicelly said Azarab!!
So true!!
wray
11-09-2009, 10:01 AM
I think everything positive has already been said. As a 55 GWM I have found married arab men to be the most considerate, affectionate lover one could ever wish for
australguy
11-14-2009, 09:37 AM
Arab men are handsome, masculine, beautiful men, their dark features sexy eyes and rugged manly personality is so attractive to me. Their dark skin smooth or hairy brings out their true sexuality and beauty. Thats just the outside….inside they are even sexier.

Arab men know how to be sensual, affectionate and sexually daring and pleasing. Whether married (bi) or gay they show their affection openly and its only because of their loving culture, where men can show affection to other men. Their masculinity is not any less when they are with a guy, and as a maculine man this is what I look for in a man.
ButtyBoy
11-26-2009, 01:31 AM
Arab men are handsome, masculine, beautiful men, their dark features sexy eyes and rugged manly personality is so attractive to me. Their dark skin smooth or hairy brings out their true sexuality and beauty. Thats just the outside….inside they are even sexier.

Arab men know how to be sensual, affectionate and sexually daring and pleasing. Whether married (bi) or gay they show their affection openly and its only because of their loving culture, where men can show affection to other men. Their masculinity is not any less when they are with a guy, and as a maculine man this is what I look for in a man.

Beautifully said! :smile:
australguy
11-29-2009, 02:15 AM
Beautifully said! :smile:

Thanx Butty, I stand by every word :smile:
albertsmit01
12-04-2009, 02:24 AM
Passionate, Hot-blooded, Sensual, Smooth, Tanned Skin, Cut dicks…. must I continue?
sucre
12-05-2009, 11:28 AM
hello everyone , anybody who have information about Moroccan Berber, are they Arab kind too?
Raquel
12-05-2009, 07:43 PM
I believe that the attitute of Arab men to sex is good as they seem quite willing to try sex with a guy eventhough theyare not ‘Gay’ as such. Of course, the inaccessibility of female sex to them before marriage is a big incentive.
Especially, the North African Arabs are generally well endowed and can be good-looking and charming! I find that in my experience thay are attracted to feminine guys , as I suppose they beleive that thaey will be the passive ‘bottom’ and are more like a woman and don’t feel so guilty in fucking them and showing affection towards them.
420zboy69
12-12-2009, 06:06 PM
Dark hair, Dark eyes, usually hairy & uncut…..those things intrest me!
eradesso
12-14-2009, 01:43 PM
i will be very honest though i may sound cynical..especially for someone my age :biggrin:

but, as i said in my “introduce yourself” post i can’t describe myself as a traditional bisexual because i have no “feelings” involved nor have i ever gone for “full” sex with a man.

As far as men are concerned in general, what turns me on wild is the fantasy, the quest, the locations etc that takes place before the actual act, not much the act itself.

But the real turn on for me is: having what you couldn’t normally have.
That translates: straight men.

Of course I do love dark skin, eyes, and hair. I do love rough, masculine men. Those who are just the essence of manliness. No frills. Typical of many Arabs.

Only thing I hate about them is the fact they are circumcised!!! :tongue:
eltrasgo
12-15-2009, 02:21 AM
That’s the good things about the arabs,being circumcised,unlike the europeans and latin americans.
eradesso
12-15-2009, 08:19 AM
i suppose that’s a matter of preference but being circumcised to me is all but a good thing.. :tongue:

That’s the good things about the arabs,being circumcised,unlike the europeans and latin americans.
wray
12-16-2009, 11:21 AM
I did enjoy the humour in this post. he’s not gay but dislikes circumcised men…hahaha

CXheck out the stats on HIV for circumsised V’s uncircumcised ..you’ll love circumsized after that read
eradesso
12-16-2009, 11:49 AM
didn’t know someone had to be gay in order to have a preference

besides, you might want to read some more studies, especially the United Nations’ study about HIV where that thesis has been rebutted.
It is only alleged that foreskin cells are more susceptible to be infected during penetration.

As I said, I do not have penetration of any kind with men, and I don’t do unsafe sex with girls.

Besides, if you think being circumcised is your passport to disease-free life I wouldn’t be surprised to find out you’re hiv+ :wink:

I did enjoy the humour in this post. he’s not gay but dislikes circumcised men…hahaha

CXheck out the stats on HIV for circumsised V’s uncircumcised ..you’ll love circumsized after that read
420zboy69
12-16-2009, 12:51 PM
didn’t know someone had to be gay in order to have a preference

besides, you might want to read some more studies, especially the United Nations’ study about HIV where that thesis has been rebutted.
It is only alleged that foreskin cells are more susceptible to be infected during penetration.

As I said, I do not have penetration of any kind with men, and I don’t do unsafe sex with girls.

Besides, if you think being circumcised is your passport to disease-free life I wouldn’t be surprised to find out you’re hiv+ :wink:
:confused:
quick heads up: HIV doesnt care either. hiv loves both cut & uncut
:eek: ….. HELLO? did I miss something??
420zboy69
12-16-2009, 12:52 PM
again, PERSONALLY, i like uncut, but I never pass Judgement either way, I do hate the fact the choice to be uncut was never given to me…Im cut!
eltrasgo
12-17-2009, 06:20 AM
Not even to worry about HIV/AIDS. An unct dick doesn’t look as nice as a cut one. Personaly,I don’t even touch a guy when I see he’s uncut. You can even smell the difference. No matter how much they try to keep it clean,the urine smell is always gonna be present,besides feeling that humid touch. In the States,the norm is to see cirumcised men,regardless of religion,nationality or race.
eradesso
12-17-2009, 08:31 AM
LOL you’re cock racist and i find myself disagreeing on many things you say:

1) to me uncut looks more beautiful than cut – of course it’s the upbringing that counts.. being born in Italy.. I think my first circumcised cock was when I was around 18/20 years old and trust me first thing I told the guy was “what’s up with your cock something’s missing” :biggrin: so to me the norm to me is uncut while cut just looks mutilated to me.

2) the hygiene fact is just a big pile of BS you’re either a clean person or you’re not. Connecting this to the arabs, I’ve seen thousands of Arabs peeing at urinals and then washing their cocks with the water that leaks down the urinal EWWWWWWWW :eek: is that hygiene? that water is a themed park for bacteria!

3) to me uncut is waaaaay more fun to play with, first the foreskin brings much more pleasure both for its sensitivity and also for the friction it causes with the gland. I find wanking a circumcised cock to be the weirdest and toughest experience unless you have lots of saliva to spare or lube.

4) i don’t know what cocks you’ve been sucking but i smell nothing like pee. Hello? We peel the foreskin back to pee?! Well ok, not all do :tongue:
it would be like saying every ass smells like poo no matter how you wash it. or maybe you only rim guys who had their buns mutilated? :tongue:

Not even to worry about HIV/AIDS. An unct dick doesn’t look as nice as a cut one. Personaly,I don’t even touch a guy when I see he’s uncut. You can even smell the difference. No matter how much they try to keep it clean,the urine smell is always gonna be present,besides feeling that humid touch. In the States,the norm is to see cirumcised men,regardless of religion,nationality or race.
chubbywest
12-17-2009, 09:04 AM
This may be a generalisation , but have arab bf’s and they btend to still act like men, have good family values and have a good sense of right and wrong and are prepared to express their views and beliefs. somthing the european has lost
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:55 PM
i liek arabs
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:57 PM
darker skin and black hair and big cocks
thats what i like
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:58 PM
i thk oriental men are the best in the world
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:59 PM
i like cut and uncut dicks
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:04 PM
hairy legs are so horny
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:05 PM
many of arab guys a sooooo hairy
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:09 PM
and if there is any arab man
who is inteested in me
please write me
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:10 PM
i have msn
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:14 PM
big dick arab cocks
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:15 PM
turkish guys are hot too
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:18 PM
lol thats fun
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:19 PM
uncut cocks dont smell
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:20 PM
i had a frien with a uncut cock
an his cock does not smell
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:21 PM
and i am uncut too
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:21 PM
ddddddddddddddddddddddd
chubbywest
12-17-2009, 10:21 PM
i adore arab guys, dont mind smooth or hairy
mysticparadi
12-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Lol, yeah haha. It doesn’t matter
PGHScorpion
12-26-2009, 11:07 PM
I’ve met and gone out with a couple of Arabic and other Middle-Eastern men, and aside from the incredible dark features, and outstanding sex appeal, I most like the fact that they are well educated, strong and masculine without being macho idiots, they tend to be gentle and passionate…at least those I’ve met. I do wish I could meet one in Pittsburgh, or NYC who would actually like to date.

William in Pittsburgh
tall4u
01-04-2010, 12:35 AM
Arab men are delightfully hairy and dark and handsome.
LoneWolf66
01-16-2010, 05:23 PM
I had a powerful dream once a long time ago. I was lost in a desert, I was going to die soon when a man appeared above me as I took my last breath. The sun was strong and I could barely see who he was but I could tell he was dark skinned, so that man was Latino/Hispanic, Native American or of Arabic descent. But I know he gave me water to live by and we loved each other and we lived together for the rest of our lives.

That is my dream.
australguy
01-16-2010, 06:07 PM
I had a powerful dream once a long time ago. I was lost in a desert, I was going to die soon when a man appeared above me as I took my last breath. The sun was strong and I could barely see who he was but I could tell he was dark skinned, so that man was Latino/Hispanic, Native American or of Arabic descent. But I know he gave me water to live by and we loved each other and we lived together for the rest of our lives.

That is my dream.

Now thats a perfect dream, Lonewolf66…Im def with you on this, its was a sign
matt1981
01-17-2010, 10:34 AM
I’ve posted these thoughts before, but once again I’d say it’s the large amounts of body hair that makes them look extremely masculine and therefore very sexy. My mouth just drools when I see a hot looking Arab dude lift his arms and expose those dark thick bushes under his arm, sticking out every which way and so dense you cannot see his skin under the hair. An Arab will have the largest and thickest triangle of curly hair at his crotch than any other man in the room. It sticks out the sides and the top of his jock-strap. It’s just a great added bonus if his broad muscular upper chest is also covered with a fine coating of dark hair. Their are also usually more well-endowed than the American guys, and certainly thicker than the average shaft. If you ride one, you don’t soon forget! These guys are “clean” and the pure masculine testosterone pumping out of their armpits and making all that hair wet and sweaty during the fuck session, is loaded with chemicals and hormones that make you hot and horny for his cock. There are active and passionate in bed and can make the entire room just reek with the smells of man-to-man sex – those strong masculine smells of armpit and crotch sweat. With an Arab dude, you ride the waves of pain and pleasure while he masturbates his cock inside your body.
adriaan1
01-17-2010, 02:02 PM
I’d like to know why you (non-Arabs) like sex with Arabs so much. I think I already know (LOL), I’m just curious if your reasons are the same as mine :)

If you think that we Europeans are all teh same in our sexual whises I think you´re wrong. Your whis can, and probable is, other than mine. I like to look at Arabs to find out where are the differences. Till now I did not find them.
adriaan1
01-17-2010, 02:06 PM
Arab men are delightfully hairy and dark and handsome. My god, never heard worse. As if there are no non-hairy Arabs. Wake up and look better.
PGHScorpion
01-17-2010, 02:07 PM
Do the Gay Arabs hate American guys?
maroc22
01-17-2010, 04:07 PM
My god, never heard worse. As if there are no non-hairy Arabs. Wake up and look better.

yes the are, but the only don’t have the sex apeal;)
maroc22
01-17-2010, 04:09 PM
If you think that we Europeans are all teh same in our sexual whises I think you´re wrong. Your whis can, and probable is, other than mine. I like to look at Arabs to find out where are the differences. Till now I did not find them.

you only see, what you like to see.
the are so many big differnece between a non-arab, and a arab men.
adriaan1
01-18-2010, 05:55 PM
i adore arab guys, dont mind smooth or hairy

I adore all kind of guys…..not just the arab-ones
adriaan1
01-18-2010, 05:56 PM
you only see, what you like to see.
the are so many big differnece between a non-arab, and a arab men.

Such as???
sahero88
01-18-2010, 10:25 PM
fuck now
Earth just finished ..
adriaan1
01-20-2010, 11:34 PM
that’s all?
Roughlover77
01-22-2010, 01:48 PM
They are so fucking butch!!!!!! What more can i say?!
Colosus
01-24-2010, 01:55 AM
Because they are hairy, very masculine and very beautiful !
maroc22
01-24-2010, 11:17 AM
Such as???

to many to write;)

there are hot, not cold.
giannigeile
01-24-2010, 04:00 PM
Hi Adriaan, MAROC22!

Let’s meet and cheque out the differences, if there are any? hahaha

I am looking for a nice maroccan guy. giannigeile.

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