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Ba-dum-bum-ch.

Yup, my two jokes about this movie are funnier than most of the really bad, sex-laden puns and vulgarities that populate this cheesy, annoying waste of time. The movie–which mostly took place at a gay wedding in New York and a trip to Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates (actually, filmed in Morocco)–had so many dumb R-rated double entendres and was so punny unfunny (”Bedouin Bath & Beyond”–haha, funny), it felt as if it was written by senior citizen pornographers who started a second career as bad nightclub act comedians in the Catskills. Blechhh. This horrible movie makes the first “Sex and the City” movie (read my review)–which I hated–look like Shakespeare.

Also, I didn’t know for whom to root: the ugly Americans who are the female (at least, I think they’re “shes”) embodiment of everything the Islamic world claims is bad about us, or the sleazy Muslim phonies the movie tries to tell us are so charming, luxe, stylish and uber-modest. Yes, the movie does take some satisfying digs at the uber-intolerant Muslims, but only at their prudishness, which isn’t the most accurate or even objectionable part of Islam or the Gulf States and the Middle East. And just because a movie makes statements about the obvious, while still mostly glamorizing Abu Dhabi, doesn’t make it a great movie. This is Exhibit A that it’s otherwise.

So, what is the movie about? I wasn’t quite sure, other than to watch ugly, aging women in gaudy clothes and make-up bitch, whine, and moan at and about their husbands, jobs, and nannies, and then try to have sex in the Middle East, after hanging out at the most painful-to-watch gay wedding. Memo to gay men: this film didn’t do ya any favors. The gay wedding was the most atrociously gaudy, corny thing ever, filled with every gay steretype in the book, including Liza Minnelli performing the Beyonce’s “All the Single Ladies” with two Liza impersonators. And did they really have to impress upon us that one of the gays in the wedding is a Jew, and pervert every wedding tradition of my religion into a gay circus?

I’m not sure which was worse–the gay wedding or the scene of the four women singing feminist anthem, “I Am Woman,” during karaoke at a club in Abu Dhabi. If these four “are woman,” G-d help us. There ain’t no roar here. Just a lot of kvetching.

When the gay wedding is over, we see a whole bunch of Sarah Jessica Parker whining, nagging, and bitching at her husband (yup, that’s the unbliss of hetero marriage the filmmakers want you to see versus the gaudy-but-pleasant love of the gays). She’s mad that her husband, “Mr. Big,” wants to stay in, eat take-out, and watch TV. Oh, and he put his feet on their expensive couch. She scolds him that “there’s no sparkle,” whatever that means. And, of course, at the end she’s bought off with “sparkle”–a giant diamond. Yaaawn. Watch “Divorce Court.” It’s more creative.

Ditto for the gratuitous “wet t-shirt contest”-style scenes of Charlotte’s bra-less nanny. I guess that was thrown in for the few moron guys who aren’t man enough to get out of being forced to sit through this sad flick with their girlfriends and wives.

And then when that stuff gets tiresome, the girls go on an all-expense paid trip to Abu Dhabi, courtesy of Sheikh Khalid, an Abu Dhabi royal who hires publicist Samantha to do wonders for his emirate. “It’s the NEW Middle East,” he tells her. “I can hear the decadence calling,” one of the “Sex” hags later declares. They’re so impressed by their luxe airplane accommodations, which are so ugly and gaudy they resemble Saddam Hussein’s palace. “Pringles in Arabic.” Are Hollywood’s Americans that dumb that they think these Islamic barbarians don’t have American products with Arabic stamped on them? Is it that impressive? Here’s a tip: American foods and clothing (especially if, in some cases, it’s underneath a niqab–the Islamic full-ninja face veil) doesn’t make you moderate. It doesn’t mean you’re any less an extremist.

And guess what? There’s Hebrew Bazooka bubble gum, too. Hey, maybe they should do a movie. I guarantee no one in Tel Aviv or Eilat will arrest Samantha for kissing in public.

Once in Abu Dhabi, the women are chauffeured around in their own personal Maybachs, feted by their own personal butlers, and hosted in a giant set of suites occupying an entire floor. They’re shown drinking alcohol all over the place (an Islamic no-no), and dazzled that an Islamic woman’s niqab (again, the full-Ninja face-veil) is decorated with fashionable embroidery. One of the characters, Miranda tells us:

Younger Muslims are accepting old traditions in new and personal ways.

Yeah, whatever. Tell it to all the women who’ve been honor-killed for being too Western and all the child brides who–well, I’d love to see how they accept old traditions in “new and personal ways.”

And, of course, Carrie (Sarah Jessica Parker) runs into her past love and former fiance, Aiden. Because–don’t you know?!–all lost loves are found in Abu Dhabis souk (Arab market). And when she loses her American passport in the confusion, the kindly Muslim shop-owner saves her passport and returns it to her, days later. Because, in the Muslim Mid-East, they’d NEVER sell your American passport and copy it a million times, right? The shop owner is so nice and so honest, he won’t even take a small tip for saving her passport. Yup, that’s so like the Arab market, isn’t it? Hey, Hollywood, stop exoticizing the Arab street. It’s neither as charming in real life nor as magical as you want us to believe. Not even close.

Even though we’re shown that Abu Dhabi natives are prudes, sex is mostly glamorized in Abu Dhabi in this movie. A handsome Dutch architect tells Samantha that Abu Dhabi makes him “feel like a boy again,” because in Paris he’d already have his hand down her shirt but here he must be restrained and take things slow.

Eventually, the women learn that Abu Dhabi isn’t actually the Western sex paradise they thought. Samantha gets arrested for kissing on the beach. Their luxe trip is suddenly no longer on Sheikh Khalid’s tab, and they have to leave Abu Dhabi.

Charlotte, a convert to Judaism has a passport in her waspy maiden name and not her husband’s Jewish surname. When she’s asked why by Sarah Jessica Parker’s character, Carrie Bradshaw, it’s clear she gets it. That’s where some of the rare, great dialogue and lines in this movie–which are few and far in between–come in:

Carrie: York? What happened to Goldenblatt? It’s the “new Middle East.”

Charlotte: It’s the Middle East.

Carrie: It’s the new Middle East.

Charlotte: It’s. the. Middle. East.

In the end, when they are in the Arab market, again, trying to get Carrie’s passport, Samantha’s purse drops and condoms fall out, just as Muslim men are answering the call to prayer. The men get very angry. But I wasn’t sure for whom to root–the vulgar slut or them. It was like my many “Feuds I Wish Would Go On Forever & That Both Sides Would Lose.”

“Yes, I have sex!” she shouts at them. “I have sex! I have sex! I have sex!” I laughed, but at both her and her Muslim antagonists. She’s a disgusting whore, and they are vile anti-Western creatures who–in real life–would sleep with her if they could get away with it. Ultimately, the women sneak away in full-ninja niqab face veils and robes to get away. But not before we’re shown the “moderate” Muslim women who help them. Those women open their robes to reveal high-fashion low-cut outfits from designers in New York. Is this supposed to mean sisterhood? Does Hollywood not know that the most anti-Western, anti-Semitic, prudish wives of emirate Sheikhs and merchants are Fifth Avenue’s biggest customers? Sorry, chicks, but haute couture doesn’t mean you’re not an Islamo-Nazi. It just means you’re a rich one.

Like I said, this movie takes a couple of digs at Abu Dhabi and Muslims after almost two hours of glamorizing both and denigrating American women as sex-crazed nutjobs. And that’s not enough. It also didn’t make it watching this utter monstrosity. (Sorry, but watching Muslim Arabs singing Foreigner’s “It Feels Like the First Time” at a karaoke bar ain’t my idea of fun.)

Sitting through all the bad jokes, crotch-cams, naked men’s butts, crying melodrama, and other vulgar stupidity (not to mention bad Arabic pronunciation) isn’t my idea of how to spend ten bucks and nearly three hours. I’ve said it before–when I reviewed the first “Sex and the City” movie: these four women are dirty guys in ugly, aging women’s bodies covered in expensive bad clothes.

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It was my first trip to Cairo (many more to come) and I settled into a five star hotel in Zamalek. I went for a walk during the daytime and noticed that it was a safe area, with many embassies and big homes guarded by military boys. After an evening of dinner and drinks I decided to wander a bit. Much to my surprise I stumbled upon a disco called The Queen Boat (little did I know the unfortunate fame that would come to it in several years). The crowd was fun and I drank a bit too much.

I left the club at around 2am and decided to walk off my unsteadiness. I passed one or two military posts, smiling and greeting the young army boys as I past. At one post I started a difficult chat with the two boys. They spoke no English and my Arabic was limited. We exchanged niceties, of course offering cigarettes and a lot of smiles. I was quite nervous as these boys were such a turn on and sexy.

As it was my first time in Egypt I made no overt moves not knowing what their reaction would be. I managed to bring up the subject of sex, were they married, how horny they must be not having any women around (experience taught me well).

We said our goodbyes and I slowly walked down the adjacent small dark street. Looking back I could see the two boys watching me so I stopped behind a parked car to relieve myself. Afterward I sat on a low tree stump behind a parked car very nervously. As I sat on the stump in the dark the most handsome of the two army boys quietly approached me. He slowly rubbed between his legs and asked for a packet of cigarettes. I reached up only to feel at least eight inches of hard cock in his uniform trousers.

I eagerly unzipped him and took it out. He was so excited that he grabbed by head and forced my mouth around his big dick and fucked my mouth like it was his first time. There I was sitting on the stump, this army stud boy in front of me, fucking my mouth and the butt of his rifle hitting my head with each thrust. I quickly learned how to accommodate by holding the rifle butt with one hand and pulling him to me with the other. He shot very quickly, which didn’t surprise me by his fervor. I handed him the cigarettes and as he left he told me to stay.

Very shortly his friend arrived. The same scene ensued. But now I was quite expert at holding the rifle butt and providing a very needed service to these horny army boys. What surprised me next was that this boy insisted that I remain as he left. I sat there, in the dark, so excited having sucked off these two boys I could not imagine what could be next.

To my surprise a few minutes later the other two boys I had met earlier at the post on the next block arrived together. I was not sure about two boys in the dark together, my experience has been they all know what they do but do it alone. The bigger of the two told me that I had made his other buddies very pleased. Then in Arabic I knew he said he wanted to fuck and not be sucked. The other boy made me stand, he sat on the tree stump and took out one of the biggest cocks I had ever seen. The boy that organized this told me to take down my jeans. He forced me to bend over and suck the monster cock of the boy sitting. All the while grabbing my ass and mumbling something very sexy about it in Arabic.

Thank goodness he was not extremely large because after spitting on my ass he just pushed his way into me……my scream was muffled by the big cock in my mouth (the boy sitting was holding my head down). What seemed like forever (but surely only a minute or two) both of these boys filled my mouth and ass at the same time. I had never been so excited in my lifetime!!!! They both quietly stood, cleaned up, put their dicks away and put there had out for money. I HAPPILY obliged and they simply smiled and left.

I walked back to my hotel feeling like such a happy and satisfied whore!!! I laid in bed not able to sleep and must have wanked 3 times before I called for breakfast.

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(SALEM, Ore.) – A high level Pakistani diplomat has been rejected as Ambassador of Saudi Arabia because his name, Akbar Zeb, equates to “Biggest Dick” in Arabic. Saudi officials, apparently overwhelmed by the idea of the name, put their foot down and gave the idea of his being posted there, the kibosh.

Akbar Zeb is no newcomer to politics, in fact you could say he’s a pretty big deal. This long-ranging high level diplomat has worked with some of the largest members of world governments, players charged with negotiating the outcome of the world’s current events.

He most recently served as High Commissioner Designate of Pakistan to Canada, and prior to that he was the ambassador of Pakistan to South Africa,. He also served in that capacity in Washington from 1983-87, and New Delhi from 1994-2000.

He earlier worked at the Pakistan headquarters as section officer from 1982- 83, director from 1987-94 and director-general from 2000-2003.

Miangul Akbar Zeb, also whose name news agencies sometimes refer to as Zib, was born on 15 February, 1954. He holds a Masters degree.

Microsoft’s Bing search engine has been accused of censoring non-pornographic gay and lesbian searches in Arabic countries.

Technology website The Register reports that testing of the search engine in January found it filtered out English and Arabic words related to homosexuality.

The test was carried out by Open Net Initiative, which said that people using the Arabic version of Bing in Arabic countries saw a pop-up message when they searched for certain words.

The message said: “Your country or region requires a strict Bing SafeSearch setting, which filters out results that might return adult content.”

Researchers said that Arabic words which were filtered in website searches included the terms “gay”, “lesbian” and “homosexuality”.

Presumably, this would prevent users of the Arabic version of Bing from accessing information about gay equality, health and news.

Bing filters out English keywords such as “gay,” “lesbian,” “homosexual,” and “queer” when searching for images, however, using these words to search for websites is permitted.

Other terms blocked by the search engine included “porn”, “sex”, “penis”, “sodomy” and “homo”.

However, the Open Net Initiative found that Bing does not place geographical limits on which version of the search engine people can use.

Study authors wrote: “If a user physically located in an Arab country chooses to use an uncensored version of Bing tailored to another country (eg, USA or UK), he/she will not experience any keyword filtering even if he/she uses a keywords filtered by Bing for Arabian countries.

“Additionally, in the case of Arabic keywords, users can sidestep the search engine censorship regime by adding another non-filtered Arabic keyword to the filtered one.”

Researchers did not find any evidence of Bing blocking Arabic or English terms relating to other censorship issues, such as “democracy”, “equality” or “opposition”.

They concluded: “It is unclear, however, whether Bing’s keyword filtering in the Arab countries is an initiative from Microsoft, or whether any or all of the Arab states have asked Microsoft to comply with local censorship practices or laws.

“Filtering at the keyword level results in overblocking, as banning the use of certain keywords ... prevents users from accessing – based on Microsoft’s definition of objectionable content – legitimate content such as sex education and encyclopedic information about homosexuality.”

Microsoft has not commented on the claims.

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Six men whirled faster and faster in the center of the nightclub, arms slung over one another’s shoulders, performing a traditional circle dance popular in Turkey and the Middle East. Nothing unusual given the German capital’s large Muslim population.

But most of the people filling the dance floor on Saturday at the club SO36 in the Kreuzberg neighborhood were gay, lesbian or bisexual, and of Turkish or Arab background. They were there for the monthly club night known as Gayhane, an all-too-rare opportunity to merge their immigrant cultures and their sexual identities.

European Muslims, so often portrayed one-dimensionally as rioters, honor killers or terrorists, live diverse lives, most of them trying to get by and to have a good time. That is more difficult if one is both Muslim and gay.

“When you’re here, it’s as if you’re putting on a mask, leaving the everyday outside and just having fun,” said a 22-year-old Turkish man who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear that he would be ostracized or worse if his family found out about his sexual orientation.

Safety and secrecy come up regularly when talking to guests, who laugh and dance, but also frequently look over their shoulders. To be a gay man or lesbian with an immigrant background invites trouble here in two very different ways.

“Depending on which part of Berlin I go to, in one I get punched in the mouth because I’m a foreigner and in the other because I’m a queen,” said Fatma Souad, the event’s organizer and master of ceremonies. Souad, 43, a transgender performer born in Ankara as a boy named Ali, has put on the party for over a decade.

Souad came to Berlin in 1983 after leaving home as a teenager. She studied to be a dressmaker and played in a punk band, but discovered Middle Eastern music through a friend and began teaching herself belly dancing. Souad started Salon Oriental, her first belly dancing theater, in 1988, and threw the first Gayhane party — hane means home in Turkish — in January 1997.

The club was packed by midnight and still had a line out the front door. On stage, Souad mixed a white turban and white net gloves with a black tuxedo with tails and a silver cummerbund, her face made up with perfectly drawn eyeliner and mascara. Dancing, she was all fluid motion, light on her feet, expressively twisting her hands and swiveling her hips.

Under flashing colored lights, guests, some with dreadlocks and others with carefully gelled coifs, moved to songs by the likes of the Egyptian Amr Diab and the Algerian Cheb Mami. Beats from traditional drums crossed with electronic ones, as melodies from flutes and ouds intertwined. When several circle dances — halay in Turkish — broke out at once, the floor began to shake from the stomping.

One of the regular D.J.’s, Ipek Ipekcioglu, 35, said she got her start rather suddenly, when one of the founders of SO36 walked up to her and said: “You’re Turkish, right? You’re lesbian, right? Bring your cassettes and D.J.”

Ipekcioglu spins everything from Turkish and Arabic music, to Greek, Balkan and Indian, a style she calls Eklektik BerlinIstan. She has been a full-time professional D.J. for six years and performs all over the world.

The space is decorated with bright yellow wall hangings depicting elephants, camels and even a flying carpet, with an intentional degree of kitsch, Souad said, and an intentional distance from anything Islamic. “We take care that religion is not mixed in here, not in the music either.”

Outside the boom of loud firecrackers can be heard, the first test rounds for the annual cacophony here that leaves New Year’s revelers ears’ ringing. Kreuzberg has been home for decades to large populations of Turks and Kurds, many of whom have very conservative religious values. Yet they have had to share the neighborhood that formerly abutted the Berlin Wall with many counterculture types, artists and anarchists and also gays and lesbians.

According to the city’s Schwules Museum, partly devoted to the history of gay people in the city and the country, “a lively homosexual subculture had developed in Berlin by the second half of the 18th century or perhaps earlier.” It was known as an oasis for gay men and lesbians in the Weimar period immortalized by the writer Christopher Isherwood and in the period when West Berlin was surrounded by the wall. Today, the city has an openly gay and highly popular mayor, Klaus Wowereit.

But gay men and lesbians from Muslim families say they face extraordinary discrimination at home. A survey of roughly 1,000 young men and women in Berlin, released in September and widely cited in the German press, found much higher levels of homophobia among Turkish youth.

“These differences are there,” said Bernd Simon, who led the study and is a professor of social psychology at Christian-Albrechts-University in Kiel. “We can’t deny them. The question is how do we cope with them.”

“The answer is not to replace homophobia with Islamophobia,” he added, pointing out that homophobia is also higher among Russian immigrants and in other, less urban parts of Germany.

Kader Balcik, a 22-year-old Turk from Hamburg, said: “For us, for Muslims, it’s extremely difficult. When you’re gay, you’re immediately cut off from the family.”

He had recently moved to Berlin not long after being cut off from his mother because he is bisexual. “A mother who wishes death for her son, what kind of mother is that?” he asked, his eyes momentarily filling with tears.

Hasan, a 21-year-old Arab man, sitting at a table in the club’s quieter adjoining cafe, declined to give his last name, saying: “They would kill me. My brothers would kill me.” Asked if he meant this figuratively, he responded, “No, I mean they would kill me.”

“I’m living one life here and the other one the way they wish me to be,” Hasan said, referring to his parents. He said he still planned to marry, but when he turned 30 rather than right away, as his parents wished. “I have to have children, to do what Islam wants me to do,” he said. “I would stop with everything in the homosexual life. I would stop it.”

He stood up from the table and called to his two friends. “All right, boys, let’s go dance,” he said. “We’re here to have fun.” And they marched off to the dance floor, smiling.

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Exactly two years ago today, April 19, I went to a meeting in Morocco around resource mobilization for women’s rights in the Middle East and North Africa. Over 100 of the region’s top women’s rights advocates were there and it was the first time I meet them. I was extremely nervous about being an out Arab lesbian in their midst, knowing that most of them saw me as diseased or abnormal, and certainly that all of them believed I didn’t belong in a conference like theirs. My experience at that meeting, however, was life-changing on a personal level, and an important catalyst in what we, at Meem, like to call the queering of our region’s feminist movement.

As soon as I got back from that meeting, I wrote an article for the then-quarterly Bekhsoos entitled “Bringing Vaginas to the Arab Feminist Dialogue.” It was about a speech I gave at that conference, inviting my fellow women’s rights advocates to open up our region’s movement to matters related to sexuality:

“I said that the war against women’s rights is a war against our bodies and it is with our bodies that we must fight. I said that Arab women’s rights activists should talk about vaginas. … I talked about feminism not being feminism without the inclusion of all issues related to sexuality. I talked about deconstructing virginity, legalizing abortion, fighting rape, incest and sexual harassment, and celebrating female sexuality.”

My speech at the time was very popular, and, despite a few harsh and continuous attacks, I became known as the young feminist who pushed taboo topics related to sex at these conferences. Only a handful of people knew I was a member of Meem though – or that I was queer. I would use other organizational affiliations I had in order to get invited and/or to get my point across. Sometimes I would just invent organizations.

Fast forward two years later, I am at a similar meeting, only with fewer participants. It’s 2010 and this time we’re in Amman, Jordan. Again, I am part of a panel designed to discuss taboos in the Arab feminist movement. Again, I have a speech prepared about how we must include women’s bodies and sexualities in our Arab feminist discourses and agendas. But this time, and almost like I had planned it as a marker of our progress over two years, my speech takes a different turn. I find myself blurting out: “What’s the big deal in me being a lesbian?” Sixteen thoughts race through my head in the two-second breath between that sentence and the one I say next:

1. Oh, shit.
2. Did I just come out?
3. Maybe they didn’t notice.
4. Crap.
5. Damn it, Nadz, you always get carried away!
6. It’s ok.. I can just say I meant.. “what’s the big deal about one being a lesbian?”
7. They’re not going to buy that.
8. Oh, shit.
9. It’s ok.. they should have guessed by now anyway.
10. Is there anyone in this room I really shouldn’t come out to?
11. Shit, I’m in Amman.
12. Oh, crap, did all those male interpreters understand what I said? How did they translate it to Arabic?
13. Is everyone going to look at me weird now?
14. Are they going to stop liking me?
15. Fuck!
16. Fuck it. It’s about time.

“What’s the deal with me loving another woman?” I say. And I go on to explain that the big deal lies in the dangers that lesbians (and other queers) pose to heteronormativity, upon which a lot of the oppressive systems are built. But forget that part. Let’s move on to the questions and answers that followed.

A Jordanian psychologist sitting in the back of the room says: Homosexuals are sick and they become so because of sexual violence they experience as children. It is a condition that must be treated.

Most of the faces in the room turn sour as they turn to look at the psychologist murmuring things like: “that’s not true” or “shame on you for saying this.” A prominent Iraqi women’s rights activist stands up and replies: I used to believe that too.. 15 years ago.. and then I educated myself on the matter and now I understand that gay rights are human rights. A prominent activist from Mauritania, probably in her 60s, replies: To me, it is enough that lesbians are women and that they are oppressed for all of us to make room for them in our feminist movement. A legendary feminist from Palestine says: I want to learn more about how to incorporate sexual rights into our work; what are some things we can do?

Overwhelming support from the audience, compassion, protection, respect. In reply to the psychologist, I say two things:

1. It is not true that homosexuals are mentally ill. I challenge you to find any decent medical or psychiatric book published after 1982 that says so. You are simply mistaken.
2. I have experienced a “treating” of homosexuality, as you call it, and it is cruel and inhumane and I think all of us should together start a campaign that puts every psychologist that practices such a “treatment” in jail.

To that, everybody applauds, women from Jordan, Iraq, Yemen, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Palestine, Mauritania, Turkey – all over. They applaud and agree and I spend the rest of the conference talking more to them about lesbian issues and how we can work together to achieve gender equality for all women. In the taxi on my way to the airport coming back to Beirut, I try to comprehend the magnitude of what had happened: a lesbian welcomed and celebrated among leaders of the Arab women’s movement. Two years ago, I would have said: no way, not in this decade.

If we were to trace our steps over those two years from the Marrakech conference to the Amman meeting, we would be able to map out Meem’s strategy in pushing Arab women’s organizations to become safe spaces for lesbians, transgenders, and people of alternative sexualities. Although this topic merits many volumes of research and analysis, I wanted to end this article with some quick highlights of the strategies that brought us to where we are today, lest others like us find them useful:

1. We were always kind and patient with homophobic Arab feminists. We knew most of them weren’t homophobic out of malice but out of ignorance. Never underestimate the power of kindness in the face of hatred.
2. We built relationships with key allies to get into strategic meetings and panels.
3. Whenever we could, we went to meetings in large numbers. There is an amazing power in numbers.
4. At every single meeting we went to, we would raise a hand and ask a question about lesbians or transgenders – even if it was out of context.
5. Wherever we could, we would volunteer with women’s organizations.
6. We let prominent feminists know we appreciated everything they’ve done for Arab women.
7. We went into meetings with our own, sincere personalities, and while our sexualities remained hidden to most people, we never pretended to be other than ourselves.
8. We educated each other on women’s issues other than sexuality and trained our members on gender equality.
9. We placed lesbian and trans people’s issues within a broader framework of sexual and bodily rights.
10. We showed respect to everyone, even when our opinions and beliefs were disrespected, and, in doing so, gained the respect of our fellow activists.
11. We gave them copies of Bareed Mista3jil and links to Bekhsoos.
12. We celebrated every progress (like this one), no matter how small, and kept our eyes on the long-term goals.

And, finally, we made friends with amazing Arab feminists from all over the region, but that wasn’t a strategy. It was a bonus we gained along the way.

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On April 1, the first Arab-language gay magazine appeared on the web and in print, causing an uproar in Morocco. Mithly, which has the double meaning in Arabic of “homo” and “like me,” printed its first run of 200 copies in secret in Rabat, the Moroccan capital. The web version, however, has a much wider readership, both within the Islamic North African kingdom and among Moroccan nationals living in the European Union. The editors and publishers of this bold new publication emphasize that Mithly is first and foremost a forum for those suffering under Islamic laws that criminalize homosexuality. Indeed, the appearance of the magazine has so incensed conservative officials that some have called upon the government to hunt down “sleeper cells” of homosexuals like terrorists.

Morocco has long existed at the crossroads between a comparatively liberal Europe and the more conservative Middle East. After gaining its independence from France in 1956, the kingdom implemented many lifestyle laws, including Article 489, which dictates 6 months to 3 years of imprisonment for “licentious acts or acts against nature with an individual of the same sex.” The Madrid-based Moroccan LGBT organization Kif-Kif estimates that more than 5,000 homosexuals have either been imprisoned or forced to emigrate since the passage of Article 489. The organizations also keeps records of organized purges and persecutions that continue to plague the underground gay community.

It seems that even the public display of sympathy or empathy for LGBT people can have dire consequences for the Moroccan people. Using the term “Mithly” to describe gays and lesbians can be seen by conservative political parties as tacit advocacy of depravity. The most commonly used term to describe homosexuals is the offensive “Chaddha,” which means “perverse.” Even moderates appear heavily prejudiced as evidenced by the recent controversy over an invitation to openly gay singer Elton John to perform at a well-known music festival; many labeled the invite as an attempt to “homosexualize” Morocco.

It is for these reasons that the appearance of Mithly is causing such a stir in a nation that seeks to retain its traditional values while also opening itself up to the West. The magazine is funded in part by organizations like Kif-Kif as well as the European Union. For its part, the magazine remains on the conservative side as far as gay publications go. The Arabic text is respectful, focusing in the first issue on calls for community and tolerance, while the images tend to be merely suggestive or symbolic rather than overly demonstrative or risqué. The next issue, however, will likely push the envelope even further by focusing on the taboo of suicide and the high rate of suicides among the Moroccan LGBT community.

Download the PDF version of Mithly here.

Egypt

Ahlan-Egypt
8, el-Gorfa el-Togareya Street, Mansheya
Alexandria, Egypt
Tel: +20 3 4830138; mobile +20 18 5166579
email: info@ahlan-egypt.com

Schools in Luxor and Alexandria

Arabic Language Institute (ALI)
The American University in Cairo

Full contact details here.

Summer and full-year intensives. Modern Standard and Egyptian colloquial at all levels.

Arabic Language School
Situated in downtown Cairo

Full contact details here.

Intensive short courses in Modern Standard and Egyptian colloquial Arabic.

Delta University
Demiatta International Road Delta Academy
Al-Mansoura, Egypt

email: klacey@binghamton.edu; tgomaa@binghamton.edu

Fajr Center for Arabic Language
Branches in Nasr City, Dokki and Ma’adi districts of Cairo.

email: info@fajr.com
Full contact details here.

Classical Arabic – various courses

Hedayet Institute
24 Road 107, Hadayek El Maadi
Cairo, Egypt

Tel: +202 5272190; +202 3583915
info@hedayetinstitute.com

Serves students visiting from abroad and the larger expatriate community in Egypt.

International Language Institute
PO Box 13 Embaba
4 Mahmoud Azmi Street
Madinet El Sahafeyeen
Cairo 12411, Egypt

Tel: +202 346 3087
email: ili@arabicegypt.com
Working hours: (Sunday to Thursday 9.00 am till 4.00 pm (GMT +2 hours)

Summer and full-year courses. Modern Standard and Egyptian colloquial.

IQRA Institute
Cairo
Tel: +201 011 68111
cairo@iqrainstitute.com

Languages Abroad
School in Mohandiseen district of Cairo

Contact via website

Jordan

CIEE Arabic Language Programme
Amman, Jordan

Contact via website

For students who already have a solid foundation in Modern Standard Arabic and seek to attain proficiency in the language.

CIEE Intensive summer Arabic programme
Amman, Jordan

Contact via website

For students who have a strong interest in developing a solid foundation in Modern Standard Arabic and seek to begin or accelerate their language proficiency

IQRA Institute
Amman

Contact via website

Languages Abroad
School in Amman

Contact via website

SIT Study Abroad (World Learning)
Amman, Jordan

Contact via website

Summer intensive field-based Arabic language immersion programme

University of Jordan Language Centre
University of Jordan
Amman 11942-Jordan

Tel: +962 6 5355000 ext. 23701, 23707
email: lancen@ju.edu.jo

A six-level intensive programme in Modern Standard for speakers of other languages: beginners (two levels), pre-intermediate, intermediate, upper-intermediate, and advanced.

Kuwait

Arabic Language Unit (Kuwait University)
PO Box 2575
Kuwait City 13026
Al Asimah
Tel: +965 481 0325

Year-long programme in Modern Standard. Number of places is limited.

AWARE Centre
PO Box 1613, Safat
Kuwait 13017

Tel: +965 533 5280
email : info@aware.com.kw

Lebanon

Center for Arab and Middle Eastern Studies
American University of Beirut
PO Box 11-0236 / CAMES
Riad El-Solh / Beirut 1107 2020
Lebanon
Tel: +961 1 350 000 Ext. 3845
email: cames@aub.edu.lb

Summer programme at six levels.

IQRA Institute
Beirut
Tallat Alkhayat, Beirut, Lebanon.
2044-6805 Beirut
PO Box: 113/5086
Tel: +961 368 4376
email: beirut@iqrainstitute.com

Saifi Institute
Chawkatly (Valli &Valli) Building, 3rd floor
Saifi – Charles Helou Ave.
Beirut, Lebanon
Tel: +961 1 560738; mobile: +961 70 832099
email: kifak@saifiarabic.com

Specialises in teaching Lebanese Arabic dialect and Modern Standard Arabic (MSA) to non-native speakers working, studying, visiting Beirut

Morocco

Al Akhawayn University
Arabic and North African Studies Program (ARANAS)
School of Humanities and Social Sciences
Al Akhawayn University in Ifrane
PO Box 104 Hassan II Avenue
Ifrane 53000, Morocco

Tel: +212 535 86 20 12
email: arabic@aui.ma

AmeriSpan
School in Fez

Contact via website

The Arabic Language Institute in Fez
B.P. 2136
Fez 30000
Morocco

Tel: +212 35 62 48 50
email: info@alif-fes.com

Three and six-week courses in all levels of Modern Standard Arabic and colloquial Moroccan Arabic throughout the year.

The Arabic School of Morocco
6, Rue Arabie Saoudite, Avenue Hassan II
Temara Centre – 12000
Morocco

Tel : + 212 19 37 90 38
email : info@arabicschoolmorocco.com

Dar Loughat
Place Moulay Mehdi 8, Rue M’hammed Benaboud
Tétouan, 93000, Morocco

Tel: +212 66 66 8 77 88
email: info@cclc-morocco.org

Courses in Modern Standard Arabic (written and spoken) plus Morccan colloquial

EasyGo Languages
School in Fez

Contact via website

Intensive Arabic Studies Programme (Tangier)
King Fahd Advanced School of Translation
Abdelmalek Essadi University

Modern Standard (at intermediate level), with elementary and intermediate Moroccan colloquial.

Languages Abroad
Schools in Fez and Rabat

Contact via website

Languages in Action
Schools in Fez and Tetouan

Contact via website

Oasis Language School
Bd My Rachid, 75
Ouarzazate 45 000
Morocco

Tel: +212 224 885155

Qalam wa Lawh
3 Ave. Ahmed Balafrej
Souissi, Rabat
Morocco

Tel: + 212 537 75 57 90
email: arabic@qalamcenter.com

Three levels of Modern Standard Arabic and colloquial Moroccan Arabic.

Sprachcaffe
Rabat – Souissi district

Contact via website

Subul Assalam Centre for the Arabic Language
Meknes way, Lotissement Al Hadika, Lot no.Q4/008
Fez, Morocco.

Tel: +212 5 35 63 18 62
email: info@sacalfez.com

Syria

Arabesk Studies in Damascus

Contact via website

Arabic Teaching Institute for Foreigners Damascus
Villat Sharqiyah, al-Mazza
Damascus, Syria
PO Box 9340

Tel: +963 11 613 2646; 613 3151
email: arabicinstitute@mail.sy

Beginning and intermediate classes in Modern Standard.

French Institute
Institut Francais d’Etudes Arabes Damas (IFEAD)
PO Box 344, Damascus, Syria

Contact via website

Modern Standard and Syrian colloquial. Intensive summer courses.

IQRA Institute
Palestine St.
Damascus, Syria

Tel: +963 9 366 6239
email: damas@iqrainstitute.com

IRAMES Group
Muhajerin 63, Afeef,
Sheik Muhiddin Bin Arabi
PO Box 36320
Damascus, Syria

Tel: +963 11 33 25 056; +963 11 334 14 25; mobile 093 520 480
email: maxos@hmaxos.com;hmaxos@yahoo.com; hmaxos@gmail.com; hmaxos@hotmail.com

Arabic language and cultural studies – cultural immersion programme. Spoken and written Arabic.

To Learn Arabic
Maher Alenezi
PO Box 31811
Damascus, Syria

Tel: +963 9 4444 0884
email: info@tolearnarabic.com

Tunisia

Bourguiba Institute of Modern Languages
47 Avenue de la Liberté
1002 Tunis

Tel: +216 71 832 418; +216 71 832 923
email: iblv@iblv.rnu.tn

Intensive summer courses and non-intensive courses the rest of the year. See review.

Learn Arabic in Tunisia
(Languages In Action)
School based in Sousse

Contact via website

Yemen

Badr Language Institute
PO Box 58049
Tarim, Hadramaut, Yemen
Tel: +967 5 418 370

Classical Arabic in a traditional Islamic environment

British Yemeni Arabic Institute
PO Box 16204
24 Hadda Street, Sana’a, Yemen
Phone/fax: 967 1 417 527
email: allardyce@y.net.ye

Center for Arabic Language and Eastern Studies (CALES)
Mahmood Basha Street
PO Box 15201
Sana’a, Yemen

Tel/fax: (967) 1-222275
email: cales@ust.edu or info@calesyemen.com

Languages Abroad
School in central Sana’a

Contact via website

Modern American Language Institute (MALI)
PO Box 11727
Sana’a, Yemen

Tel:: +967 1 441 036 (Saturdays to Wednesdays, 6 am. to 3:30 pm GMT)
email: admin@arabicinyemen.com

Saba Institute
Saila, next to the Mahdi mosque
PO Box 5481
Sana’a, Yemen
Tel: +967 1 273 200; mobile: +967 733 068714
email: contact@saba-institute.com

Sana’a Institute for the Arabic Language

PO Box 5734
Sana’a, Yemen

Tel: +967 1 284 330
email: info@sialyemen.com

Standard Arabic, Yemeni colloquial, specialist courses (e.g. medical, political Arabic), Arabic for Muslims, summer courses, calligraphy.

Yemen College of Middle Eastern Studies

PO Box 3671
Sana’a, Republic of Yemen

Tel: +967 1 270 200
email: PAL@ycmes.org

All levels of Modern Standard and Yemeni colloquial.

Yemen Institute for Arabic Language
PO Box 26023,
60 Street,
Sana’a, Yemen

Tel: +967-1-403204
Mobile:+967 777 499 474
YIAL Facebook group
email: info@yialarabic.com; yialarabic@gmail.com

Nine levels ranging from beginner to advanced. Written work from textbooks make up 50% of the programme, while lectures, other materials, and periodic activities account for the rest.

FRAMING GAY NEWS. Al Jazeera’s Arabic network “is not interested in covering gay rights issues the way Al Jazeera English does,” says Hossein Alizadeh of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission.
Al Jazeera English is ready for broadcast in Canada thanks to a CRTC decision last year, which heralded the network’s arrival as “increasing the diversity of editorial viewpoints in the Canadian broadcasting system.” While the English network garners lavish praise, gay activists say its Arabic sister network does a poor job of reporting on queer issues.

Al Jazeera is based in Doha, Qatar — making it the only global news service with headquarters in the Middle East. Al Jazeera Arabic was started in 1996, and in 2007, Al Jazeera added a sister channel, Al Jazeera English, to its network.

“I feel Al Jazeera English is a reliable source of information, and I think what they are offering is a perspective from the Middle East region, but the professionalism of the reports, including on lesbian topics, has global standards,” says Hossein Alizadeh, Middle East and North Africa program coordinator at the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission (IGLHRC).

Gay activist El-Farouk Khaki says Al Jazeera English’s entry into Canada is good news for the representation of queers in media.

“What we suffer from is invisibility in Canada within the larger Muslim community,” says Khaki. “Some of the more traditional, conservative groups do not recognize our existence.”

Al Jazeera English regularly reports on gay issues. In recent months, its coverage included segments about the gruesome murders of close to 100 gay men by al Mahdi Shi’ite militias in Iraq in 2009, the killing of gay youths in a Tel Aviv club last summer, and India’s court decision to decriminalize gay sex.

But Al Jazeera’s Arabic network “is not interested in covering gay rights issues the way Al Jazeera English does,” says Alizadeh. Comparing Al Jazeera Arabic with Al Jazeera English “is like comparing apples and oranges.” Al Jazeera Arabic is geared towards a Middle Eastern audience and does not challenge cultural values or orthodox religion, he says.

Extremist religious viewpoints are expressed on Al Jazeera Arabic’s religious talk show Shariah and Life. A number of participants who regularly contribute to Al Jazeera Arabic make negative comments about homosexuality but appear on the channel again and again, he says. This includes Yousef al-Qaradawi, a prominent scholar who is on every other week. While Alizadeh says the cleric has offered some progressive views such as “discouraging government monitoring of citizen behaviour, the right of people to commit sin and the right to privacy,” he also promotes anti-gay views — in line with orthodox Islam.

“Al Jazeera and any other network operating in the region,” says filmmaker Parvez Sharma, “are very uncomfortable talking about homosexuality in any honest and open way.”

Alizadeh suggests that most Middle Eastern media use negative language in reports about homosexuality. For instance, media in the Middle East tend to frame it as a personal scandal if an actor is gay and claim that homosexuality is a Western conspiracy designed to undermine the social fabric of the Arab world.

Brian Whitaker, a Guardian reporter and the author of Unspeakable Love: Gay and Lesbian Life in the Middle East, writes in the book: “While clerics denounce it as a heinous sin, newspapers, reluctant to address it directly, talk cryptically of ’shameful acts’ and ‘deviant behaviour.’”

Whitaker says that when gay issues are mentioned in Middle Eastern newspapers, the focus is typically on same-sex marriage in the West. Moreover, the falsely framed “Western otherness” of homosexuality “can be readily exploited to whip up popular sentiment.”

Yanar Mohammed, a Canadian-Iraqi feminist leader and co-founder of the Organization for Women’s Freedom in Iraq, is critical of the lack of coverage of feminist and queer issues on Al Jazeera Arabic. Last spring, she blew the whistle on the persecution of gay men in Iraq, a story that TV network Al Arabiya broke in April. While the story was reported on Al Jazeera English, Mohammed says she did not see any coverage on Al Jazeera Arabic. Mohammed says the Arabic network has kept a distance from her and her organization since 2004 when she expressed concern about the demise of Iraq’s secular state and the negative impacts of Islam on women’s rights.

“They do not like to acknowledge there is a gay and lesbian issue in the Arab world,” says Mohammed. The Al Jazeera Arabic channel is “based on Islamic ideology” and “reflects an Arab macho mentality,” she says.

“Al Jazeera English is different,” says Sharma. “Its mandate is to project a secular, modern image of the Arab world. In doing that, it has a completely different management.”

Al Jazeera English is, Alizadeh agrees, a different entity. “They have a different viewership and a different editorial team. The only thing in common is the name and the financial sponsor.”

But the Arabic and English channels share the Doha headquarters, and — when it comes down to it — that is where the shots are called on issues that are controversial in the Middle East. In 2008, when the US bureau of Al Jazeera English wanted to do a story about the coexistence of Islam and homosexuality, they tried to arrange an interview with Sharma on the popular Riz Khan show.

“A lot of communication went back and forth between the Washington bureau and Doha,” says Sharma. “The management in Doha killed the story. It turned out to be too controversial.”

Although Al Jazeera English is the world seen through secular Arab eyes, it nonetheless “draws lines,” says Sharma. “There are degrees of comfort. Talking to me is too controversial because a) I’m gay and b) I’m Muslim…. If I was a news story or if something happened to me, then they would cover it.”

Alizadeh is glad to hear that Al Jazeera English is coming to Canada. He emphasizes the essential role of a free press in effecting democracy. “There are elements of culture that can’t change overnight. With the free flow of information, eventually an environment is created where queer people will be able to talk about their issues.”

Xtra spoke to Al Jazeera Arabic’s Washington bureau chief for this story.

“We here in the US, we never had to cover homosexuality from any angle,” said Abdur-Rahim Fuqara. “I’m not sure what the station’s editorial line is…. What I can do is speak to the headquarters in Doha to find out and see how they have covered issues when they have covered it.”

Fuqara did not respond to Xtra’s request for another interview.

http://www.xtra.ca/public/National/Al_Jazeera_Arabic_ignores_gay_news_activists-8202.aspx

Homosexuality is forbidden in almost all of the Arab world. In Saudi Arabia, for example, sodomy is punishable by death. But Beirut’s Lebanon is different. It’s a city where the gay and lesbian community is quietly and unexpectedly thriving.

NPR’s Shereen Meraji has a report.

SHEREEN MERAJI: Down a narrow cobblestone street in West Beirut, spray-painted graffiti covers the wall. One image in particular stands out. Hin Gandur(ph) on her way to class at Beirut’s American University stops and describes it.

Ms. HIN GANDUR (Student, West Beirut): It’s a face of a man covered in black. The rims of his eyes are all that shows. It’s the question; it says who’s homosexual? Well, your mother is homosexual. I am homosexual.

MERAJI: Can you say it in Arabic, too?

Ms. GANDUR: (Arabic spoken)

MERAJI: The graffiti is confusing to a lot of people who see it, including Hin.

Ms. GANDUR: (Unintelligible) means the same. I don’t know what’s he’s trying to use it to symbolize or to say.

(Unintelligible) means homosexual. He’s using the first two lines, but in the third line he uses (unintelligible) which I’m confused about.

MERAJI: He is graffiti artist and graphic design student Hamed Cino(ph). Hamed is 19, Muslim, and gay.

Mr. HAMED CINO (Graffiti Artist; Student): The thing is, in Arabic, people describe homosexuality as (unintelligible) which translates to deviant, literally. And it’s the most popular way of describing it, and it’s kind of offensive, you know, like someone’s basically calling you deviant and it stems from a lot of – like a lot of cultural understandings that are very oppressive. So the graffiti – the guy wearing a mask says who’s a deviant? Your mom is a deviant. I’m homosexual.

MERAJI: Hamed himself has been the target of anti-gay graffiti, so he’s using his graffiti to express frustration at his own treatment. He hopes to spark a dialogue about homosexuality in Lebanon, where it’s still against the law. For Brian Whitaker, a journalist and author of “Unspeakable Love,” a book about gay and lesbian life in the Arab world, writes that in terms of opportunities for gay social life and activism, Beirut is as good as it gets. Whitaker credits Beirut’s ethnic and religious diversity.

Mr. BRIAN WHITAKER (Author, “Unspeakable Love”): You have the Sunni Muslims, the Shia Muslims, the Druze, various kinds of Christians, and so on. No one faction is able to get the upper hand. That leads to something which I wouldn’t really describe as tolerance, because I don’t think it is. But it’s a kind of live and let live attitude.

(Soundbite of music)

MERAJI: One of the most popular night clubs in Beirut is Acid. Men line up to enter surrounded by the Lebanese army, which provides security for this and a handful of other night spots in the city. The men in fatigues ignore the men in tight pants and (unintelligible); guys like Haisam(ph).

HAISAM: From east to west, coast to coast, Acid is still the best.

MERAJI: Haisam drove to Beirut from the northern city of Tripoli. He told me Acid is like home sweet home, a place where he feels free to dance and dress as he pleases. Gay men and women from all over the Middle East come to Beirut to socialize in the city’s gay-friendly nightspots.

SALLY: That is Pride, there is Bardot, that is Basement, there is (unintelligible)

MERAJI: Sally is a lesbian born and raised in Beirut.

SALLY: I’m so happy here. I’m living my gay life openly (unintelligible) why do you want to leave?

LARA: I always have to live with my parents until I get married.

SALLY: If you want to leave, you have to find new friends, new gay friends, actually. You have to find new places to go out. I’m happy here.

MERAJI: Sally’s girlfriend Lara is not satisfied with gay life in Lebanon. Both refused to give their last names, fearing their family’s reaction. Lebanese culture is hardly free of the stereotypes that have plagued gay people everywhere. Lara.

LARA: If you’re a gay, you’re a junkie. You’re a sex addict. You’re wild. You have no boundaries. You have no limits. You don’t believe in God.

MERAJI: Lara plans to leave Lebanon after college and move to the U.S. This is the Middle East, where family honors everything. A majority of young people do live with their parents until they’re married. So if you’re gay, that often means leading a double life, heading to the West, or never leaving home. And for Muslims like Lara, coming out even in Beirut can mean a complete loss of freedom.

Sheikh Ali Merhi(ph) is an Islamic scholar who instructs teenage boys on the tenets of Islam in one of the Beirut’s Shiite neighborhood.

Sheikh ALI MERHI (Islamic Scholar): In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful, the Koran said (Arabic spoken) which means that any woman makes relation her husband or her father or her brother, any man have authority on that woman, must prison her in – at house. This prison must continue until death.

MERAJI: The punishment for a gay man, according to Sheikh Ali, isn’t imprisonment, it’s death, in order to maintain family honor. Bilaw(ph) is a 24-year-old Shiite who won’t give his last name. Bilaw walks a very thin line, hiding his sexuality from family while living as an openly gay man outside the home. He talks about what happened when his uncle suspected he was gay.

BILAW: They said to me they wanted to kill me. For them it’s an honor crime.

MERAJI: Bilaw has been able to keep his sexual orientation a mystery at home, even as he makes gay activism his life’s work.

(Soundbite of cell phone)

BILAW: Helam(ph). Hello?

MERAJI: He’s one of the leaders of Helam, which means dream. Helam is the only gay rights organization openly functioning in the Arab world. Bilaw sees nothing wrong with being gay and a devout Muslim.

BILAW: I’m very religious. I pray, I fast, I have my boyfriend and we have sex, for sure. I’m gay because I was born gay. So I’m not shooting anybody. I’m not doing anything wrong. So why to be punished at the end? This is my philosophy.

MERAJI: It’s a philosophy that Bilaw hopes will spread from gay-tolerant Beirut throughout Lebanon to the rest of the Arab world.

See the full and original thread here: http://www.arab-gay.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=109

ButtyBoy
09-10-2007, 01:54 PM
I’d like to know why you (non-Arabs) like sex with Arabs so much. I think I already know (LOL), I’m just curious if your reasons are the same as mine
ptitprince
10-16-2007, 09:18 PM
I guess that because they are good looking, sexy, charming, viril, sensual. They are hot! Anyway, I never had experience with Arabs but they really look like being awesome
قرامطة
10-17-2007, 04:32 AM
رسالة خاصة
بس مع صورة
webmaster
10-17-2007, 06:46 AM
رسالة خاصة
بس مع صورة

Please speak English in this forum. Thanks.
قرامطة
10-19-2007, 06:32 AM
Im so soory , but nobady hear can spik Arabic ?
becuse Im not very good in English.
webmaster
10-19-2007, 02:41 PM
Im so soory , but nobady hear can spik Arabic ?
becuse Im not very good in English.

You can speak Arabic in this (http://www.arab-gay.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7) forum.
Indo_man
10-20-2007, 08:23 PM
hello, all. i am non arab, but arab men especially the hairy chest one attracts me so hard. and i dont know why
nafez
10-22-2007, 06:48 AM
I like the nice smooth tan skin dark hair and eyes..and they call them camel jockies for a reason ; )
geisha
10-28-2007, 01:12 PM
Wooo… this is an interesting topic, I like it!

Hi! I’m geisha from Singapore.
I’ve just joined the community and is relatively new here.

I’ve only realised recently that I’m madly in love with Arabian/Middle Eastern men… well, of course, I’ve never tried one yet, haha~ :p

But undeniably, Arabian/Middle Eastern men are generally: marcho, tall, dark, handsome, hairy… and bulky… and these are what I’m attracted to!

I’m seriously looking for an Arab boyfriend.
If any of you have any good suggestions to help in my search, please do not hesitate to advise me!

Thanks and have lots of fun!
geisha
azarab
10-28-2007, 05:20 PM
What I like about arabs… (as a non arab myself)
the colour of their dark brown eyes make me feel weak…
the colour and the smell of their skin make me wild…
their smiles makes me feel blue…
one touch and I feel lost…
eurolad
10-28-2007, 07:28 PM
Because of their virility… and hairiness.
smooth
11-11-2007, 03:24 AM
hello,all, i first went out with a Lebanese man a year or so back, and sexually he was the best looking, and nicest person, we are not together, due to a rather odd circumstance, but i have since only been with middleeastern men. they just have ”IT” love, smooth steve
DirtyKnees
11-18-2007, 07:50 PM
A fair question, but does anyone know why they are attracted to a specific type? For me maybe it’s the old opposites attract reason? I am blond, blue-eyed, smooth, Anglo-Saxon; Arab men are dark! Dark-eyed, dark skin, beautiful dark eyes, some are hairy, some are smooth (though I tend to go for the hairier ones), definite cultural differences which I always find attractive. The love of my life was Brasilian, but sadly he didn’t feel as strong for me as I did for him so it didn’t work out. However I made alot of Brasilian friends and learned Portugues and consider myself richer as a person for having had the experience and would gladly take the emotional risk with an Arab man too. And don’t you think Arabic is a beautiful language to hear too?
smooth
11-18-2007, 08:40 PM
hello DirtyKnees, i really must agree with what u said, i have dated a Puerto Rican man and a Lebanese man myself. a friend of mine, a hot Black man said that i like ”exotics” i guess he’s right, i am white smooth boy with a mix of English Irish French and Native American. love smooth steve
joha_2004
12-01-2007, 04:54 PM
i like arab men.
they’re are interesting person and very sexually attractive.
they look rough bu inside they’re are very sensitive.
and also they’re great x-factor that they are very good in bed like virility is their great skill.
i know for sure because because i have an arb boyfriend for about three years now.

ciao
smooth
12-01-2007, 11:05 PM
hi Joha, i really love Arab men,unfotunately my Lebanese bf. is no longer around. would love another mid east man ! they are the hottest, sexyest men! love smooth
sandrofantor
12-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Personally, it’s that typical Arabic macho charm that I fall for. My boyfriend has it too, that way of gently but powerfully (and not to be argued against) telling you that he’s gonna do you now and you can either make it hard or easy. It never fails to turn me on
hungrybutt
12-03-2007, 09:29 PM
of the few arabian lovers i had, i enjoyed very much their passion when it comes to kissing and making love. generally speaking, i think they have more interesting bodies, a much more intense smell from their skin, the skin colour also plays a role, and dark eyes are magic to me.

then, as a white european boy, i always enjoyed interesting company from people of different origin. there are so many things to talk to with these people. different backgrounds, different habits make every day more interesting when you hook up as partners. that is of course something, they share with african, asian, american people.

finally, arabian is a terribly sexy language that i could listen to for hours (interupted by kissing, by chance)
Afrasiyab
12-22-2007, 05:23 PM
i have to restrict the conception of Arab, i guess. I am interested in Tunisian and Kuwaiti guys only. Not the whole Arab georgraphy. Arabs sound exotic, i don’t know. I like Arabic, it sounds hot, especially that ‘ayn sound:P
Dalantis23
02-03-2008, 04:31 AM
I hope that my opinion as a half-Arab will be also interesting for all of u

In my opinion the matter of being attractive as an Arab boy is matter of being manful. Most of us, Arabs look and behave manfully, and I think that’s what make people (some ppl of course) crazy about us. Also – dark skin, black big eyes and and black hair make us more manfully-looking. It’s matter of kind of “macho look” I think… And hairy bodies, that some ppl (including me) like a lot…
Moreover – smell of the skin (anyone can explain me why Arabs smell so intensive (and hooot!!!!) ???)
And also – this kind of “I wanna do it with u now, babe !!!!”-behavior plays an interesting role here, hehehe
I had been flirted many times just coz of the reason that ppl in Europe know that I have Arabic origins, and that’s cool
loveseeker
02-03-2008, 07:25 PM
What do I like about Arab men? I do not think their is enough room for me to write. I love their friendliness they always have a smile on their face and a hand extended for a hand shake, they do not hesitate to touch you when conversing, on the shoulder or the arm, Their smile is beautiful bright and full of life. They are ambitious and go getters, they do not wait for a problem to arise they prevent it before it happens. They are passionate in the bedroom and in their lifes, they also want to bring you the most pleasure when having sex with you nomatter hoe long it takes. They just have a energy and a zest for everything. Let me sum it up by telling you what Arab men do to my senses. My sense of sight, they are all so handsome, their dark eyes penitrate you to your soul, their dark hair, they usually have facial hair that drives me wild when in the throws of passion, their lips are full and inviting, their noses are beattiful you just want to kiss their faces all over, their hairy bodies ( most of them), Their beautiful cocks alway big and fat and as hard as a rock, and their carmel colored skin. My hearing, their voices are usually deep and sexy and their accents drive me wild especial when they are making love to youand telling you what they want, the sound of their balls slapping my ass when fucking me so hard. My sense of smell, they smell so good all the time usually wearing a sensuous colonge, but you can smell the exotic spice of their flesh and it draws you closer and closer to them it is an aphrodisiac. And Finally my sense of taste, their lips on mine and their tongue invading my mouth they taste so good, their cock has a flavor that can compare to no other, their ass taste wonderful too, but their cum is the best it is the nectar of the Gods, in the flavor you can taste the exotic Middle Eastern flavors of their diets, I could live on an Arab man’s cum alone. So my friends you can see that I have it real bad for Arab men, they are the BEST LOVERS and have ruined me for anyone else. I hope one day to find a arab man for a long term relationship, but i would settle for beng his mistress or even a quick fuck on the way home. I am quite flushed right now and must take care of business so I will talk to you hot Arab men later.
Michael
smooth
02-03-2008, 08:41 PM
dear Michael – your posting is so well put. i agree exactely with what you say, love steve
frnkly8
02-03-2008, 09:41 PM
I find arab men to be some of the sexiest and usually very well endowed and the one I was seeing was great in bed, he knew how to really make me glad I am a bottom. They can be passionate or rough depending how you want it.
tuogiocattol
02-03-2008, 10:02 PM
perchè l’Arabo ha una corporatura stupenda, forte, maschile, virile:)
Dalantis23
02-03-2008, 11:23 PM
Si – molto virile!

BTW – loveseeker – it’s sounds almost like a poem about Arab men, heheheh. I feel pround
tuogiocattol
02-03-2008, 11:29 PM
It’s very kond you speak italian, yes arab men are fantastics, they have a lovely great dick and a chest formidable like you
Dalantis23
02-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Si – vivo nella Grecia – tutti parlano italiano nell questo pease, ahahah Ma non so che possiamo parlare italiano aqui, in questo forum. Forse solo inglese e arabo, heh.
tuogiocattol
02-03-2008, 11:43 PM
yes i think is right to speak english here, but i speak not well… my dream is that an arab man fuck me
homeguy6
02-20-2008, 01:15 AM
Arab men are obviously sexy, at least to me; intellegent, dark, most of all HAIRY.
davidf36
03-02-2008, 10:25 AM
I love the look of Arab men. I remember staying in an hotel in Marrakesh, and one of the waiters came to my room several times, and I sucked his cock. I still have his picture in my bedroom.
tuogiocattol
03-02-2008, 11:57 AM
well, I was in Jerusalem when I meet an Arab man, name is Rauf. I was out of my bangalow to whash my slip… and I dressing only a nightgown… he came to me and said in Italian “mangi bianco” (you eat with?) I didn’t understend at the moment… he said ” I can help you?” and he went in my room… he take off his dick and told me “eat” and with was the sperm….It was fantastic…. ciao sorry for my english
smooth
03-02-2008, 01:45 PM
nothing like middle eastern men ,so nice ,so sweet …………love smooth steve
arab_lover
03-08-2008, 12:29 PM
Hi all – I am asian – I like Arabs based on their looks. They are so masculine – very good lookin (not all)! hahaha. Also – their hairy body gets my libido going. Unfortunately – some smell bad and it turns me right off. Still want to try one though!
loveseeker
03-08-2008, 02:19 PM
This message goes to the Australian asian so called “arab lover”. I think your comments were made in poor taste. They were extremely rude, shallow, disrespectful, immature, ignorant, and most definitely made by a superficial, self scented, conceited little asshole.
This site is dedicated to Arab men and the men who love them. Where do you get off making such comments. You are cleared and uneducated juvenile who should keep her opinions to herself. Think about it you just came to an Arabic site dedicated to Arab men and men who love them and just insulted an entire race based on what you said.
Imagine this if you can, that i would go to a web site for men who like asian men and were to say I would like to try asian men but they are all short, own laundries, and all have small cocks. But i want to try one just to say i tried one.
smooth
03-08-2008, 02:27 PM
to love seeker- this is from another ARABIC lover-i could not agree more with what you said , love smooth steve
geisha
04-01-2008, 05:39 PM
Hello to loveseeker and smooth:

Yes, I know I’m Asian… but I can’t help it but to support the both of u!!!
I’m madly in love with Arab men in every way they are, so I do feel the same insult from “arab lover”… and why on earth would someone call himself an “arab lover” when in actual fact u don’t really love them, was this meant to be an insult or another joke also? And what’s about the Asian-Australian status? So u’re an Asian residing in Australia or what? And how do u feel being an Asian in Australia, b’cos I’ve heard so much horrid stories of how racist some native Australians are and how they hate Asians in Australia! Oh my, to start with u’re oh-so confused! :confused:

I’m definitely Asian, a Chinese from Singapore (b’cos Singapore is in Southeast Asia) in fact… but how would I to describe an Asian to all of u non-Asians here… :rolleyes:
Well, I’m not tan like what u think people from Thailand are (Thailand is also part of Southeast Asia). I’m not short at all, I’m 1.78m and I’m lean and fair… or should I say I look more like those people in Hongkong, Taiwan or Japan.
But one thing I must admit… the probability of getting an Asian man with huge dick is not as high as one from the Middle East!!!

Hope everyone is enlightened now!
Geisha
duhleenkwint
04-02-2008, 09:05 AM
Most of the posts on here mention specific physical traits, but not what drew them to those traits in the first place. With me, it’s my mom’s fault! My parents (liberal Jews) made friends with our new neighbor, a half-Palestinian half-Persian man who’d had a very hard life. His wife and son were killed in the Lebanese civil war, and although he looked VERY fit and muscular, he had a bad heart condition and back problems. My mom made me go help him around the house. At first I resented it. I hated the idea of having to mow TWO lawns. But then as I got to know him, I was fascinated. He would cook me the most mysterious and delicious food, and going into his house was like entering another world, with exotic furniture, books, and art I’d never seen before in typical USA suburbia. He was flattered by my curiosity, and would explain everything he could about his home in Lebanon, Persian culture, and all that gorgeous nonrepresentational art. I loved his thick black eyelashes, those deep sensitive eyes, and the way he spoke, with those hardened R’s and softened V’s, and then one day, WHAM!! I saw him nude. He had thrown his back out trying to get out of the bath. Nothing ever sexual happened, but that was not only when I knew for sure that I loved men, but THAT kind of guy was forever imprinted on my sexual aesthetic.
ButtyBoy
04-02-2008, 09:36 AM
Hi there duhleenkwint! It was very interesting to read what it was that drew you to the kind of guys you (and I) like. Lovely story. Being open to other cultures is a great thing. Your post is making me wonder how I myself became interested in the type of guys that I like. I don’t really have the answer right now. I probable forgot about it, but there must be something. You defenately gave me something to think about for today!
smooth
04-02-2008, 01:34 PM
yes ,i agree, great story, i’ll think of your story ,today too
daold
04-03-2008, 01:08 PM
Middle eastern men (the one i met) are loving, sexy, hung and will do anything for you.

I would love to find another Arab that will want to have a lasting relationship..

Know any in Brisbane Australia, then let me know =)
xboom3r
04-26-2008, 06:42 PM
They’re viril like latinos
maturelondon
04-27-2008, 02:00 PM
usually they are quite shy when talking about sex or in the emails … but in the bedroom they enjoy long foreplay and they keep it going for a long time what else to wish for ….?
kalakala1414
04-27-2008, 02:12 PM
Arab Men tends to be hairy and sexy and I LOVE THAT!
KRUZKY
04-27-2008, 04:00 PM
Because Arab men fuck like real men.
nikazman
04-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Love their big cock and hairy bodies…very hot and aggressive top…all night fuck..
maturelondon
04-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Hi again Nik, some arab men I met are only mildly hairy. Not all are bears …
My experience mainly gulf (UAE) men. And it is true, they have great stamina, being hard long long time
smooth
04-28-2008, 07:42 PM
hi guys ,my best lover was LEBANESE,he was 9” and thick ,fairly smooth,cut cock, but damn ,i ain’t never had anyone better ,before or since,what stamina,,,,,,and could shoot loads of sweet cum………
maturelondon
04-28-2008, 07:47 PM
no doubt one of the things i enjoyed more with my arab lovers was their stamina … and being horny and ready all times for steamy sex
nikazman
04-28-2008, 10:03 PM
And when they fuck they are really enjoy it and love it when they ejaculate powerfully hard inside and such sexy sound too…
smooth
04-28-2008, 10:05 PM
and the wonderful scent of their sexy bodies………sweet…….
nikazman
04-28-2008, 10:09 PM
love the spicy smell…musky sweaty body afterwards…
pelonsgv
04-29-2008, 01:48 AM
Arab Men are erxtremely hot!!!!!
As a latino…………I prefer a dark skin hairy man
geisha
05-09-2008, 06:26 PM
Hey! U guys are making me to want an Arab guy more than ever!!!

Arrrh! Help!
Geisha
ttravis69
05-10-2008, 10:46 PM
Hot, hot, hot!
nomorefishin
05-15-2008, 05:28 PM
I don’t think I can list any additional reasons beyond what’s been listed in previous posts.

:p
London_
05-15-2008, 08:28 PM
Arab men, simply sexyyy…!!
sony15
05-18-2008, 10:52 PM
I like them very much. They are so heavy!
nomorefishin
05-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Arabic tops… get me every time. Never been with one, unfortunately.

I remember goin’ out to the clubs where there would be large groups of them. Oh man…. so nice…
heinz57v
05-19-2008, 01:19 AM
I like Arab men because I have found them to be very sensual in the bedroom and great dancers who manage to entice and express sexuality without being feminine like many gay men in the west who think that to be sexy or sensual they have to copy women. Men are allowed to kiss male friends on the cheek and dance with their male friends in ways that aren’t common in northern European and Anglo cultures. Straight men are allowed more expression of affection for male friends and this allows for a sense of male sexuality that to my mind is more organic and natural much as how homosexuality was practiced in the Ancient west in Greece and Rome. What we have in Europe and America and the wider Anglo-world is something different born out of the conservatism of protestant reformation and the counter-reformation which exerts the idea that men are to deny any sexual emotions on the surface as are women to a lesser degree and that affection is unmanly and a sign of weakness. As that social world view started collapsing Victorian era mores revived them as did the return to innocence that happened in America post WWII which is why to this day in progressively less strictness these attitudes persist causing young homosexuals to associate affection, artistic appreciation, and a host of other culture things to be the meaning of gay which has nothing to do with being a man who loves men but ahs more to do with social conditioning of what it means to be a man. I find gay Arabs are more free from these roles- I find they don’t feel the need to fit into a gay culture in order to express their love for other men.
vusinkosi
05-19-2008, 12:09 PM
I am black and Arab men seem to really what to get me inside them

Have other black men found this?

Vusi
atha72
05-20-2008, 01:11 AM
because an arab men can be a really MEN and they are great fu…ers:D:D
brahms67
06-15-2008, 02:34 PM
good news to hear i adore
qatu83
06-16-2008, 06:35 AM
skin color, kind of a forbidden fruit deal
geisha
06-16-2008, 06:46 PM
Yes brahms67!

We all adore your race here, your people are sexy lovers!

My kisses to Arabs!
Geisha
mark529h
08-03-2008, 08:33 PM
i like arab men because they are just sexy. i think one of the most attractive thing is how many are very hairy. i also like the darker toned skin and the overall personality of the men i have met.
beurs
08-04-2008, 06:56 PM
I like arab men because they seem to be very animalistic. Very hairy and therefore very sexy !
94170400
08-05-2008, 06:03 AM
no reason for me~
xq28
08-05-2008, 09:28 PM
mmmm..
i used to dated locals. and arabs will be my new experience if i have one. if we can get what’s out of the box, one of our fantasies, then i won’t waste my time..

and physically, arabs, are hotter… and their size are legendary. unvulnerable. lol…
fghfgh0000
08-08-2008, 10:45 AM
WOW I Like this website !
nhtj
08-08-2008, 05:56 PM
Arab men are so handsom and maskuline. I know
murdoch1967
08-08-2008, 07:53 PM
I can’t add anything new to this thread but totally agree with all you other guys.
Almani
08-08-2008, 09:42 PM
I like guys that do not look like most of the guys I see all over the day. So for me I would say it’s the “exotic aspect”…
Almani
08-08-2008, 09:43 PM
and of course… arabs are just looking sooo damn hot
dirrrtyboy
08-09-2008, 12:45 AM
A fair question, but does anyone know why they are attracted to a specific type? For me maybe it’s the old opposites attract reason? I am blond, blue-eyed, smooth, Anglo-Saxon; Arab men are dark! Dark-eyed, dark skin, beautiful dark eyes, some are hairy, some are smooth (though I tend to go for the hairier ones), definite cultural differences which I always find attractive. The love of my life was Brasilian, but sadly he didn’t feel as strong for me as I did for him so it didn’t work out. However I made alot of Brasilian friends and learned Portugues and consider myself richer as a person for having had the experience and would gladly take the emotional risk with an Arab man too. And don’t you think Arabic is a beautiful language to hear too?

no, not really lol
fundude79
08-10-2008, 12:47 PM
arabs are sexy. they have a sexy color.. long dicks hairy manly. intense in sex. they are cutey too
shinj
08-11-2008, 04:37 AM
I also like the dark skin and especially the hairy bodies…..yum
dumb_dummy
08-11-2008, 04:36 PM
Arabs men are very masculine and have sharp features tat really turn me on!
mightbe
08-11-2008, 06:49 PM
I guess my friend Faraj has the most awesome body. He has a bubble butt that you could rest a can of pepsi on. I have stared at it for 6 years. There is nothing more that I would like is to spend an evening pleasing him. His feet are so different than any other man I have ever been with. His dick has to be 9 plus. I wish to be with a man like him someday.
rikkie
08-11-2008, 09:19 PM
I like arab men for theis strong features their hairy bodys
ButtyBoy
08-11-2008, 11:41 PM
Funny, most of the Arabs I know are not hairy at all.
smooth
08-11-2008, 11:45 PM
yeah ,,,the ones i’ve known here in usa ,,were not very hairy either ,,,plus there were a couple who shaved their pubes and balls smooth
ButtyBoy
08-11-2008, 11:54 PM
Yeah most guys I know shave their pubes and balls very thoroughly and frequently. They always take good care of themselves and are very hygienic. I like that.
FatPapiNY
08-12-2008, 07:43 AM
Almani I agree with you completely. I love the bronze, brown and darker shades and features of the Arab men. To me they are very masculine. I need an Arab boyfriend now!
smooth
08-12-2008, 04:03 PM
funny ,the ones i’ve known were actually rather light skinned,,,,ecept for one egyptian,,he was rather dark,,big too ,,,very tall and masculine
spatrick1234
08-15-2008, 01:40 PM
I’ll be pretty honest. As a man who likes other men, I am attracted to men who look nothing like me. I am white with blond hair and blue eyes. I don’t want to date a mirror image of myself. So in general men with darker features and dark eyes (swoon) flip my switch.
geisha
08-15-2008, 04:27 PM
I’ll be pretty honest. As a man who likes other men, I am attracted to men who look nothing like me. I am white with blond hair and blue eyes. I don’t want to date a mirror image of myself. So in general men with darker features and dark eyes (swoon) flip my switch.

I totally agree with u spatrick1234!
U’ve truly explained why I’m always looking out for men of other colors except my own race… hmmm, but no offence here, I’m not a racist either.

Love
Geisha
TomIN
08-16-2008, 03:43 PM
I like Arab men for their dark skin and sexy bodies.
rikkie
08-18-2008, 07:21 PM
I love arabs beause they have big hairy dicks
johnny
08-18-2008, 08:45 PM
Arabs are very manly en have a nice brown skin. thats what i like about arab man.:)
andre
08-19-2008, 02:09 AM
arabs are hot like us, latins
KRUZKY
08-19-2008, 02:49 AM
The Arab guys I’ve had sex with were all the best. They all said they were str8. They all fucked my throat and ass like a man who hadn’t gotten any for a long time and needed it bad. They all pounded the the fuck out of me; deposited their loads; and left. Hot!
topboy
08-19-2008, 04:17 AM
I agree – another blonde – blue eyed whitey…..I’m always drawn to darker, latin, arab, black guys…
volimv
08-20-2008, 04:49 PM
I like arabs because of their color of skin (not black and not white) just great color, and I like them because I think that they have a great cock and they are usually verry hairry.
Ofcourse not all arabs loking great but origin arabs without mix marrigies are very very handsome
scarlet
08-23-2008, 02:41 AM
arab men are more manly, sexy, have lovely coloured skin and no how to service another guy..

whats better than an arab man….two arab men..mmmmmmm
leanguy21
08-23-2008, 04:39 PM
They are masculine, friendly, macho!!
dallascub
08-24-2008, 04:23 AM
For me, Arab men seem to exude pure masculinity. Alot of my attraction is the hairy chests and legs. HUGE weakness for this cub.
Vizier_Aken
08-24-2008, 05:16 AM
To be honest, I really don’t know! I mean, I’m kind of picky with my guys, but something about Arab men tend to turn me on. I’ve yet to actually have one though, since there really aren’t a lot of arabs in my part :yahoo.com …
Scott747
02-07-2009, 08:40 PM
Hey man, don’t forget that slavery is illegal – even in Jordan. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind exploring some ancient practices with you. LOL!!
ArabicTop
02-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Hey man, don’t forget that slavery is illegal – even in Jordan. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind exploring some ancient practices with you. LOL!!

I love to own slaves ,,,,, I can not help it … lol .. but anyways .. my farm well be privet

welcome in sexy slave
Scott747
02-07-2009, 10:03 PM
You got it baby!!! Anytime you want! Thanks for welcoming me to your farm. Hope I live up to your expectations!!!
SwimBod
02-13-2009, 01:38 PM
oh well, for one thing, Arab men have thick ones

but I am top ……. but i enjoy playng the dick and balls and better still when I enter their hot butts
matt1981
02-14-2009, 03:00 AM
i agree with SwimBob that most i’ve met do have larger (and thicker) cocks than do most guys. but i like them because they are never afraid to vocalize their cries and screams as they suffer the pain of penetration and then take the hard and deep thrusting that i like to make rough and brutal, especially after i cross that point of no return and really start using their body to masturbate my cock. i love their clean sweaty smell as they take the fuck, and even enjoy licking and sucking on their sweaty armpit hair.
SwimBod
02-14-2009, 06:07 AM
very graphic
duan92100
02-17-2009, 01:51 PM
Because they have thick cut cocks. I like cut cocks and big cock head.
SwimBod
02-19-2009, 07:58 AM
yup they have thick cut cocks…

Mine’s uncut and thick too but Asian meat
omarri
02-20-2009, 01:25 PM
hello evrybody i am here
Summerwind
02-20-2009, 06:21 PM
Good evening!
eugene
02-21-2009, 09:29 AM
Its really one of my dreams to have sex with an arab guy..they give me the thrill that i really cant explain. Maybe because of the sexual mystery that the poses….oozing with hotness and ahhhhssss!! Hope i could find one here..and i promise to give him a really hot experience to…cause im a certified good cock sucker and loved being fucked hard!!;)
Xerxes
02-23-2009, 09:07 AM
I love Arab men because they are “in charge”. They want what they want and they expect me to give it to them (and I do!). They don’t want a lot of words and talking and explaining, just rough, hard forceful sex. They leave me feeling like I’ve been used in a very helpful way to making a man happy and healthy and free of entanglements. I can smell them on me after they have left me to clean up, and I can smile all afternoon and night. With luck, they’ll come back again, but no promises. They definitely make me crazy with lust, and could easily worship the ground they walk on. Arabs can turn me into a fetish freak overnight.
tathens
03-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Because I travel to the Middle East a few times each year and these men are such delicious looking forbidden fruit.
Scott747
04-12-2009, 06:51 PM
Actually I don’t think that Arab men are all that different from anyone else — at least those who are really gay. they have the same issues, problems and hangups that we all do — with the extra special difficulty of living (some of them) in countries that are not all that sympathetic to their condition, as it were.
rikkie
04-12-2009, 08:05 PM
I like arabs. They are beautyful, black haired men. Aspecially the truly gay arabs . They are in a difficult position so they need special support
allberto
04-14-2009, 03:16 AM
i just like just cocks:) no matter cut or not:)
grethomory
04-15-2009, 05:55 AM
i just like just cocks:) no matter cut or not:)

me too on that one, :tongue:
Openhatch
04-25-2009, 02:09 PM
ever since I saw the Movie Sex Bazaar , I have been attracted to arab men, the dark eyes, nig dicks and the commandinf attitude..bot would have been in heaven with those three guys in the steam….taking turns at me and coverinf me with their hot thick jizz.
getting hard just thinking about it.
darrel arans
04-25-2009, 06:21 PM
i love them because they never loose track of their manhood. if he is a true top-you can “take it to the bank” he will never for any reason be anything but a top. i love the arabic languages also, and yes how sexy and earthy the men are.
Mike_Atlanta
05-03-2009, 12:40 PM
I like the beautiful color of their skin, their jet black hair and those wonderful deep dark eyes that can see right into the heart of my soul, not to mention the rest of their bodies! Keep those arabic men coming ! I love ‘em!
nudebranch
05-03-2009, 01:34 PM
There is this unexplainable magnetism that Arabs draws me to them. Hoping to meet one someday.
darrel arans
05-03-2009, 02:35 PM
i lived in turkey a few years and dated an arab man there. turkey is not an arab nation-but i was lucky to find him there on buisness. me in my uniform and him dark and beautiful with his lovely smile, dark hair, beautiful white smile and penetrating eyes, caused my heart to swell the first time we met. his english was not good-and my arabic was even worse, but when there is an attraction you somehow learn to get around the language thing. we dated for 2 yrs until i left and it was the saddest day of my life. of course the sex was more than great! but one thing i learned and must advise about arab men; they are very much men. they are prideful of their culture and demand respect-especially from a lover. me being a bottom i had no problem whatsoever in submitting to him in every way or giving him the respect he commanded. there were times that when he spoke to me in english or arabic i understood my place with him. he was loving, caring but forceful in his manners towards me. when he wanted sex-i didn’t understand the word or words in his language-nor did he in english, but each time, when he would grab my ass and i would stroke the bulge in his pants-we both understood the meaning of what he needed and what i wanted. his sex was strong and at times very painful but i grew to love his way of taking me down and getting the very best of what i had to offer him. our parting has stayed with me for years now and if i could find him i’d do just about anything to have him back. i guess that is why i am so passionate about arab men. i’ve gotten to the point that i don’t want any other “race” of man for sex or as a lover. i guess like the saying goes, “stick with what you know best”. i’d add-stick with what you love best, and for me i’m totally in love with the arab man.

darrel arans:heart:
cuteboy22
05-25-2009, 12:29 AM
big cock
cuteboy22
05-25-2009, 12:31 AM
and hanooooooooooooooon
webmaster
05-25-2009, 12:43 AM
cuteboy22; please post with some more consideration..
Xerxes
05-25-2009, 08:30 AM
Arab men have an extra dose of testosterone in their blood. It makes them seem to ooze the sexual heat. You can smell it, see it, taste it and feel it. While getting fucked by an Arab man, all I can think of is GIVING it to him, whatever he wants, as hard as he wants to slam it to me. I don’t know of any other race or type of men who are so smoulderingly sexy.
matt1981
05-26-2009, 10:18 AM
just to feel him inside me, using my body to masturbate his cock, sweating on me with the scent of armpit and crotch sweat, making the hot and humid room reek of man-to-man sex. i love feeling all that thick and curly body hair rubbing against my skin and feeling his pubes grind into my ass when he impales me on it and makes me feel him full measure inside my body. the masculine smell from his thick sweaty armpit hair drives me up the wall with lust and desire. i welcome the pain of penetration and the jolts of sharp thrusting pain as he pounds my ass unmercifully.riding me rough and brutal, working toward his release.
1thatseeks
06-06-2009, 08:15 AM
my response probably wont be a slice of raunchy delights like other forumers have posted. i’m not sure why it is i am attracted to mid eastern men( arab, persian, afghan etc) although i have very little direct contact with them. i feel strangely drawn them, the language, the various cultures, the history etc. simply, there are so many things i find fascinating about them. with respect to the physique, its the swarthy to copper tones in their skin, the deep penetrating eyes they have, the carpet of hairy deliciousness that cloaks their slightly stocky bodies. the beard that may adorn their face.the smile that can hook and sink anyone. Naturally i’m drawn to hairy older guys so that could be it too. sometimes when i see an arab man in a thobe or gallabaya, an infatuation over comes me, leaving me weak in his presence. i also feel overcome with sexual fervor as my eyes try to find evidence of the nudity that lies underneath the thin sheen of fabric that is the thobe, searching for the sway and swing of the delightfully sweet bulge that lies in between, something that i long for since my early youth. i dream for the day that i may get know on personally the feel the embrace of masculinity.

It could be their presence, the feeling of omnious comfort i recieve by simply walking by…or the 1000 and 1 question that race through head. or the fantasies that are conjured through the slightest sight of one.
gaussiemale
06-06-2009, 12:00 PM
mmm … why do i like Arab men??? Easy … they are so MANLY and DOMINANT!!!! i go weak at the knees at the mere thought of them … they’re HOT!!!
ourson819
07-05-2009, 06:13 PM
Arabian men are simply the most beautiful, perfect men…I have never meet a man that can carry himself like an Arab man.
Pure beauty, to look, touch…fell inside you!!!
Love an Arab man, and you will never go back!
vicbeach
07-06-2009, 04:29 AM
i am an attractive gay arab man living in ottawa and i enjoy getting together with non arab guys and giving them the most pleasure possible. get back to me…..maybe we can get together and i can give you the ecstasy you desire……..i am very well endowed and know how to use it!!!!
ourson819
07-06-2009, 05:13 AM
You should call me.
Can you accommodate? I just got 2 tennants here, today, so cannot for 3 weeks…I will not last that long knowing you are just accross the river…

Francois

819-360-4437
xxlforyou
07-07-2009, 11:53 AM
hello,this is alan from london,i have always liked arab men very much,they are unique for me,and good fun to be with
Jamer
07-07-2009, 04:28 PM
I feel atract to arab guys because they’re different to the guy that I am for example. My familly it’s an half from morocco but I’m blond with blue eyes…so all my friends are the typical arab guys. I know that they like guys like me ( for example again) I have 3 exboyfriends arabs and allways was the same …I was looking for dark skind guys they were looking for white guys.
they are much better when they are open mind ( here in my city there are lot of arabs but the just fuck with guys like an entertaiment. They use to say that they are not gays…so I like arabs guys with a touch of occidental vision.
WhiteBttm52
07-08-2009, 03:12 PM
I love the dark eyes and macho attitude. The hairy chest and legs and the way they treat a bottom is the best. Arab men are just the sexiest men around. The men I have met are very nice and thoughtful but also very much in control and i love that.
Brightraven
07-20-2009, 05:28 PM
I think that underlying everything is that ALL Arabic men have a love and respect for their own sex which is unique; none of them think it ’strange’ to kiss or hug a male friend in public as it is considered in other less enlightened cultures. Therefore, there is no ‘quantum leap’ whatsoever in the Muslim world between male platonic love and sexual expression – Often it is a much more natural evolution than in the guilt-ridden, sin-obsessed, occidental cultures where that one small step used to be regarded with righteous, hypocritical horror. Plus of course, there is the mystic, subtle, hidden apsects of sex, hidden behind pure white linen and cotton, where golden skin peeps through, bedecked with dark, glistening hairs! . These Arab men could not be more sensual if they tried! – This NATURAL hidden aspect is what wins everyone over in the end; forget the pinch-tight Levis and the clammy designer T-shirts trying to ripple up a couple of muscles! – They are NOTHING in comparison to the traditional Arab clothes and the utter sensuality of those who wear them!
smooth
07-20-2009, 05:40 PM
your above post is one of the most insightfull artickles ,,,to me u capture the very essence of maleness of the arabic man,,,,,,,,,
Brightraven
07-20-2009, 05:52 PM
Thank you so much! – I should also add, as a child I was intoduced to my father’s sister’s Egyptian husband from Cairo. Sadly, he died in his early 50’s from leukaemia … but I can assure you, this man, in the few hours in all when I had been with him on his infrequent trips to London, showed more love, concern and interest in me than my own father did in all his life! RESPECT, in the end … despite all the incessant negative propaganda being shovelled down our throats … is what makes an Arab stand out … They WANT you to enjoy and appreciate them!
smooth
07-20-2009, 06:09 PM
your last line THEY want you to enjoy and appreciate them ,,,,,,so true in my own life ,,,ive found the same thing my bf was allways more concerned with my pleasure too ,,,he was a lovely lebanese man ,
Brightraven
07-20-2009, 06:23 PM
I am so sorry you are saying your boyfriend ‘was’ always concerned with your pleasure! – I have to assume you lost him somehow … But for sure, as you are a man who DOES appreciate the Arabic man, a beautiful man will come and love you again. – I am hoping for it to happen the first time round; even at my late stage of life (67!) … The problem is I already did the father-role thing with a Spanish boy 27 years younger for 8 years. – It tired me out! … Now a beautiful young Saudi Arabian fellow, not in the gay scene at all, wants to claim me! I just don’t know if destiny is going to turn our dreams into reality yet; only time will tell! – But here again is respect, this young fellow constantly declares his love for me; hardly a day goes by when he doesn’t tell me! God bless your Lebanese friend, wherever he is.
ourson819
07-25-2009, 03:42 AM
Very simply, arab men are very sexual in life…The way they move, talk, look…Very sexy, sensual.
I dream of finishing my life in the arms…or other positions…of an arab man.
Pure pleasure, know what they want, and how to get it!!!

Love you all!!:heart::wink_smile:
xxlforyou
07-25-2009, 10:43 AM
maybe because gay sex is forbidden in the arab world the senseof danger,or excitement this causes enhances arab sex,it certainly ranks high in th world
Brightraven
07-25-2009, 11:23 AM
Yes … There is a a very valid point just raised … Here in the West there is no sense of restraint whatsoever … cum-an-go is the order of the day. – That means that fleeting sexual gratification is only of the moment, with no thought at all of the value, or hardly even the true consideration of the beauty, of the man in your arms. – Always with one eye on the NEXT conquest! Where there IS restraint, everything is much more intense and much more valued and given much more worth.
WhiteBttm52
07-25-2009, 04:39 PM
I agree that is a big part of it. Since it is more difficult to meet someone there is more passion… and of course the men are all so hot just to begin with. Just looking at Arab men gets me excited. I can hardly wait til I can go visit.
ourson819
07-26-2009, 11:51 PM
to vicbeach: I would trullly enjoy spending time with you.
Give me a call, the tennants are gone…Home is open…
Ciao ciao bello!!
matt1981
07-27-2009, 09:48 AM
the thick bushy hair under their arms, at their crotch and on their chest. when they get all wet and sweaty during the fuck, all that thick black hair under their arms gets matted and tangled in swirls to their skin and spreads out over a larger area of their underarms and sides. the masculine sweaty smell from their armpit hair is introxicating and they make the entire room reek with the smells of man-to-man sex – that masculine smell of armpit and crotch sweat. it drives me up the wall and all i want to do is lick, suck and chew on his sweaty thick armpit hair – taste it inside my mouth and smell him. totally awesome!
ButtyBoy
07-27-2009, 01:11 PM
It’s funny how many people seem to like Arabs for their bodyhair, while others (like me) love the hairless Arabs. I mainly have experienced Moroccan guy and most of them were very smooth and I really love that.
sahero88
08-02-2009, 06:22 PM
is richer than the smell it leaves the screws, because the milk accumulated in the thick hair of ass gives a nice smell sex …. I enjoy a lot when they fucks
giannigeile
08-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Well their slim build, beautiful skin and graceful movements

eyes to die fore, lashes 4ever and hair well cared for

sexuality in everything they do, look and move

also something mysterious

anything else?

Yes their cocks

enough?

giannigeile
Angelboy1269
09-10-2009, 11:46 PM
Arabs are really fun and HOTT!!
Angelboy1269
09-11-2009, 12:29 AM
Are Arabs better lovers than others?
darthhaxor
09-16-2009, 11:43 PM
All the arabs I have seen have thick cocks and I really really really like that. and they seem to cum alot, which I also like alot.
ourson819
09-16-2009, 11:48 PM
I wish I could find such a man in my area…It is the capital of Canada…Must one or a few arab men in here who would like to either make love, or fuck the hell out of me…
And yes, arab men are great lovers…
sahero88
09-17-2009, 05:42 AM
and have not flavor the hairy ass are wealthy Arab loa by hairy, and you can shave them give them with you tongue.
marko80
09-17-2009, 08:04 AM
ther are so many reasons, why, i as an non arab, like arab guys, there dark skin, dark hair, dark eyes, great built, they are macho….
i can go on and on…..
matt1981
09-17-2009, 09:33 AM
hairy chests, as well as hairy armpits and a large triangle of thick and curly black hair at their crotch is a huge turn-on to me! especailly when they get all wet and sweaty in a hot and horny fuck session, where the entire room just reeks with the smells of man-to-man sex – those masculine smells of armpit and crotch sweat. makes me crazy with lust and desire.
granja
09-17-2009, 02:50 PM
Mostly because……….(something that has not been said on this forum before.)….. they are, in general, wonderful , honest, open, generous, loving, clean, trustworthy, people. I have lived in the Middle East and North Africa for a good number of years, and I have met, loved and been loved by many types of Arabs. I am proud to say that I have friends from nearly all the Arabic countries, and if I had to single out my favourites, it would be too difficult to choose.
Firstly each end every one is a human being and not a piece of meat, if you offer your hand in friendship it will be accepted….and treasured. Sure some of them are poor and others rich, in any society we get those differances, but in my opinion , having met and enjoyed the company and companionship of Arabs from all of the economic and social spectrums, I can honestly say that its not a question of colour or macho or any of those superficial reasons. They simply are the most gentle, kind, strong and enthusistic lovers on the planet. I think an extraordinary fact about most Arabs guys is the fact that the vast majority of them are secure enough in their sexuality to do it with another guy without being “labelled”. Also a lot depends upon which country they are from. The guys from the Gulf will treat you as a best friend,and love you both in and out of bed whereas the guys from North Africa see you as more of a means to an end……. But still if you are patient and kind to them they will reward you with their friendship and affection.
Sure, if you just want sex, then consider that they too may feel exactly the same and treat you…………….as a peice of meat.!
TransGirl.nl
09-19-2009, 12:45 AM
Because I don’t like the alternatives LOL
davezgz
09-19-2009, 06:19 PM
I like arab boys because they are amazingly good looking and their sensuality is awesome….any arab boy please contact me¡¡
maceov
09-21-2009, 01:24 AM
Personally, I love Arab men for their unbridled passion, honesty and breathtaking bodies. They are passionate kissers, amazing lovers, and know how to work their big cocks into a VERY appreciative pretty boy. They are also sweet, thoughtful and oh-so-appreciative that they are getting their cocks rocked, licked, sucked and fucked.
hetfi
09-21-2009, 01:13 PM
Because I don’t like the alternatives LOL

Straight to the Point
LOL :shades_smile:
wray
10-10-2009, 01:58 PM
Not all Arabs are hot and sexy. However many are. The ones I have met and experienced are usually well travelled, well educated, speak English as well as Arabic, have masculine sporting interests like me, don’t drink too much and absolutely love hot sex and love to do anything in bed. opposites attract!
smooth
10-10-2009, 02:16 PM
hi thats a very well written post ,,,u r exactely right ,,,,i had a wonderfull affair with a very nice lebanese man ,,,he was well educated ,,,spoke fluent french english and arabic,,,but most of all was his infectious smile ,,,his beautiful green eyes ,,,,of course he was a marvelous lover too ,but he will always be in my heart,,,,as well . i never have had a lover such as him before or since , un fortunately hes now gone from my life ,,,,,but i’ll never forget him,,,,,,,,,,,,,
eltrasgo
10-13-2009, 08:20 PM
They are masculine,good looking,big eyes,cut cocks
German_in_US
10-14-2009, 06:10 AM
Maybe it is because in Arabic culture it’s ok to be affectionate towards men. Sometimes it nice to be in a culture where you can hug on your friends and be close to your male friends in public. That’s what attracts me to Arabic men

By the way, Being gay is not just about sex. There are sexy people in all cultures. Being gay is more about who you are able to fall in love with and whom that you want to be your you life mate.
It’s sad that most gays from the west who come to these sites only see a cock and not the person it belongs to.
wray
10-14-2009, 12:02 PM
German has another interesting possibility.

I appreciate the difference in male friednship in ME/Gulf to that of western world:tongue:

TransGirl.nl
10-17-2009, 02:17 AM
It’s sad that most gays from the west who come to these sites only see a cock and not the person it belongs to.

This is very true
forthbridge
10-19-2009, 08:40 PM
I like my Arab frends for a lot of reasons. Mostly they don’t drink alcohol or if they do they don’t get drunk. They are clean, if you taste their dick you are not put off because it has not been washed. They are affectionate. They don’t rush away as soon as they have fucked you, they will stay holding you and talking afterwards. Also important for me many of them like older fatter men and show it when you are in bed together.
smooth
10-19-2009, 09:24 PM
yeah what u say forthbridge is so true ,,,in my situation too ,,,,i’m a chubby older white guy who had a lebanese bf ,,,he was about 35 ,,,i’m 55 ,,,he was so sweet and affectionate ,,and unlike american guys he loved my chubbyness and everything ,,,,,we are not together now for other reasons ,,,,,,but he was the love of my life ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ButtyBoy
10-26-2009, 12:16 AM
yeah what u say forthbridge is so true ,,,in my situation too ,,,,i’m a chubby older white guy who had a lebanese bf ,,,he was about 35 ,,,i’m 55 ,,,he was so sweet and affectionate ,,and unlike american guys he loved my chubbyness and everything ,,,,,we are not together now for other reasons ,,,,,,but he was the love of my life ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I don’t mean this in a bad way smooth, but I have been reading about your ex Libanese friend for years now in these forums. Isn’t it time for you to move on? I’m sure that he has moved on by now? Again, I don’t mean it in a bad way. I hope you get what I’m saying? You’ve gotta live now, no-one else is gonna do it for ya!
smooth
10-26-2009, 12:32 AM
yeah hes moved on to jail,,thanks for your kind thoughtfull words,,,i’m sure u mean well though
ourson819
11-09-2009, 04:59 AM
Very nicelly said Azarab!!
So true!!
wray
11-09-2009, 10:01 AM
I think everything positive has already been said. As a 55 GWM I have found married arab men to be the most considerate, affectionate lover one could ever wish for
australguy
11-14-2009, 09:37 AM
Arab men are handsome, masculine, beautiful men, their dark features sexy eyes and rugged manly personality is so attractive to me. Their dark skin smooth or hairy brings out their true sexuality and beauty. Thats just the outside….inside they are even sexier.

Arab men know how to be sensual, affectionate and sexually daring and pleasing. Whether married (bi) or gay they show their affection openly and its only because of their loving culture, where men can show affection to other men. Their masculinity is not any less when they are with a guy, and as a maculine man this is what I look for in a man.
ButtyBoy
11-26-2009, 01:31 AM
Arab men are handsome, masculine, beautiful men, their dark features sexy eyes and rugged manly personality is so attractive to me. Their dark skin smooth or hairy brings out their true sexuality and beauty. Thats just the outside….inside they are even sexier.

Arab men know how to be sensual, affectionate and sexually daring and pleasing. Whether married (bi) or gay they show their affection openly and its only because of their loving culture, where men can show affection to other men. Their masculinity is not any less when they are with a guy, and as a maculine man this is what I look for in a man.

Beautifully said!
australguy
11-29-2009, 02:15 AM
Beautifully said!

Thanx Butty, I stand by every word
albertsmit01
12-04-2009, 02:24 AM
Passionate, Hot-blooded, Sensual, Smooth, Tanned Skin, Cut dicks…. must I continue?
sucre
12-05-2009, 11:28 AM
hello everyone , anybody who have information about Moroccan Berber, are they Arab kind too?
Raquel
12-05-2009, 07:43 PM
I believe that the attitute of Arab men to sex is good as they seem quite willing to try sex with a guy eventhough theyare not ‘Gay’ as such. Of course, the inaccessibility of female sex to them before marriage is a big incentive.
Especially, the North African Arabs are generally well endowed and can be good-looking and charming! I find that in my experience thay are attracted to feminine guys , as I suppose they beleive that thaey will be the passive ‘bottom’ and are more like a woman and don’t feel so guilty in fucking them and showing affection towards them.
420zboy69
12-12-2009, 06:06 PM
Dark hair, Dark eyes, usually hairy & uncut…..those things intrest me!
eradesso
12-14-2009, 01:43 PM
i will be very honest though i may sound cynical..especially for someone my age :biggrin:

but, as i said in my “introduce yourself” post i can’t describe myself as a traditional bisexual because i have no “feelings” involved nor have i ever gone for “full” sex with a man.

As far as men are concerned in general, what turns me on wild is the fantasy, the quest, the locations etc that takes place before the actual act, not much the act itself.

But the real turn on for me is: having what you couldn’t normally have.
That translates: straight men.

Of course I do love dark skin, eyes, and hair. I do love rough, masculine men. Those who are just the essence of manliness. No frills. Typical of many Arabs.

Only thing I hate about them is the fact they are circumcised!!! :tongue:
eltrasgo
12-15-2009, 02:21 AM
That’s the good things about the arabs,being circumcised,unlike the europeans and latin americans.
eradesso
12-15-2009, 08:19 AM
i suppose that’s a matter of preference but being circumcised to me is all but a good thing.. :tongue:

That’s the good things about the arabs,being circumcised,unlike the europeans and latin americans.
wray
12-16-2009, 11:21 AM
I did enjoy the humour in this post. he’s not gay but dislikes circumcised men…hahaha

CXheck out the stats on HIV for circumsised V’s uncircumcised ..you’ll love circumsized after that read
eradesso
12-16-2009, 11:49 AM
didn’t know someone had to be gay in order to have a preference

besides, you might want to read some more studies, especially the United Nations’ study about HIV where that thesis has been rebutted.
It is only alleged that foreskin cells are more susceptible to be infected during penetration.

As I said, I do not have penetration of any kind with men, and I don’t do unsafe sex with girls.

Besides, if you think being circumcised is your passport to disease-free life I wouldn’t be surprised to find out you’re hiv+

I did enjoy the humour in this post. he’s not gay but dislikes circumcised men…hahaha

CXheck out the stats on HIV for circumsised V’s uncircumcised ..you’ll love circumsized after that read
420zboy69
12-16-2009, 12:51 PM
didn’t know someone had to be gay in order to have a preference

besides, you might want to read some more studies, especially the United Nations’ study about HIV where that thesis has been rebutted.
It is only alleged that foreskin cells are more susceptible to be infected during penetration.

As I said, I do not have penetration of any kind with men, and I don’t do unsafe sex with girls.

Besides, if you think being circumcised is your passport to disease-free life I wouldn’t be surprised to find out you’re hiv+
:confused:
quick heads up: HIV doesnt care either. hiv loves both cut & uncut
….. HELLO? did I miss something??
420zboy69
12-16-2009, 12:52 PM
again, PERSONALLY, i like uncut, but I never pass Judgement either way, I do hate the fact the choice to be uncut was never given to me…Im cut!
eltrasgo
12-17-2009, 06:20 AM
Not even to worry about HIV/AIDS. An unct dick doesn’t look as nice as a cut one. Personaly,I don’t even touch a guy when I see he’s uncut. You can even smell the difference. No matter how much they try to keep it clean,the urine smell is always gonna be present,besides feeling that humid touch. In the States,the norm is to see cirumcised men,regardless of religion,nationality or race.
eradesso
12-17-2009, 08:31 AM
LOL you’re cock racist and i find myself disagreeing on many things you say:

1) to me uncut looks more beautiful than cut – of course it’s the upbringing that counts.. being born in Italy.. I think my first circumcised cock was when I was around 18/20 years old and trust me first thing I told the guy was “what’s up with your cock something’s missing” :biggrin: so to me the norm to me is uncut while cut just looks mutilated to me.

2) the hygiene fact is just a big pile of BS you’re either a clean person or you’re not. Connecting this to the arabs, I’ve seen thousands of Arabs peeing at urinals and then washing their cocks with the water that leaks down the urinal EWWWWWWWW is that hygiene? that water is a themed park for bacteria!

3) to me uncut is waaaaay more fun to play with, first the foreskin brings much more pleasure both for its sensitivity and also for the friction it causes with the gland. I find wanking a circumcised cock to be the weirdest and toughest experience unless you have lots of saliva to spare or lube.

4) i don’t know what cocks you’ve been sucking but i smell nothing like pee. Hello? We peel the foreskin back to pee?! Well ok, not all do :tongue:
it would be like saying every ass smells like poo no matter how you wash it. or maybe you only rim guys who had their buns mutilated? :tongue:

Not even to worry about HIV/AIDS. An unct dick doesn’t look as nice as a cut one. Personaly,I don’t even touch a guy when I see he’s uncut. You can even smell the difference. No matter how much they try to keep it clean,the urine smell is always gonna be present,besides feeling that humid touch. In the States,the norm is to see cirumcised men,regardless of religion,nationality or race.
chubbywest
12-17-2009, 09:04 AM
This may be a generalisation , but have arab bf’s and they btend to still act like men, have good family values and have a good sense of right and wrong and are prepared to express their views and beliefs. somthing the european has lost
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:55 PM
i liek arabs
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:57 PM
darker skin and black hair and big cocks
thats what i like
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:58 PM
i thk oriental men are the best in the world
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 07:59 PM
i like cut and uncut dicks
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:04 PM
hairy legs are so horny
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:05 PM
many of arab guys a sooooo hairy
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:09 PM
and if there is any arab man
who is inteested in me
please write me
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:10 PM
i have msn
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:14 PM
big dick arab cocks
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:15 PM
turkish guys are hot too
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:18 PM
lol thats fun
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:19 PM
uncut cocks dont smell
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:20 PM
i had a frien with a uncut cock
an his cock does not smell
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:21 PM
and i am uncut too
burningsoul
12-17-2009, 08:21 PM
ddddddddddddddddddddddd
chubbywest
12-17-2009, 10:21 PM
i adore arab guys, dont mind smooth or hairy
mysticparadi
12-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Lol, yeah haha. It doesn’t matter
PGHScorpion
12-26-2009, 11:07 PM
I’ve met and gone out with a couple of Arabic and other Middle-Eastern men, and aside from the incredible dark features, and outstanding sex appeal, I most like the fact that they are well educated, strong and masculine without being macho idiots, they tend to be gentle and passionate…at least those I’ve met. I do wish I could meet one in Pittsburgh, or NYC who would actually like to date.

William in Pittsburgh
tall4u
01-04-2010, 12:35 AM
Arab men are delightfully hairy and dark and handsome.
LoneWolf66
01-16-2010, 05:23 PM
I had a powerful dream once a long time ago. I was lost in a desert, I was going to die soon when a man appeared above me as I took my last breath. The sun was strong and I could barely see who he was but I could tell he was dark skinned, so that man was Latino/Hispanic, Native American or of Arabic descent. But I know he gave me water to live by and we loved each other and we lived together for the rest of our lives.

That is my dream.
australguy
01-16-2010, 06:07 PM
I had a powerful dream once a long time ago. I was lost in a desert, I was going to die soon when a man appeared above me as I took my last breath. The sun was strong and I could barely see who he was but I could tell he was dark skinned, so that man was Latino/Hispanic, Native American or of Arabic descent. But I know he gave me water to live by and we loved each other and we lived together for the rest of our lives.

That is my dream.

Now thats a perfect dream, Lonewolf66…Im def with you on this, its was a sign
matt1981
01-17-2010, 10:34 AM
I’ve posted these thoughts before, but once again I’d say it’s the large amounts of body hair that makes them look extremely masculine and therefore very sexy. My mouth just drools when I see a hot looking Arab dude lift his arms and expose those dark thick bushes under his arm, sticking out every which way and so dense you cannot see his skin under the hair. An Arab will have the largest and thickest triangle of curly hair at his crotch than any other man in the room. It sticks out the sides and the top of his jock-strap. It’s just a great added bonus if his broad muscular upper chest is also covered with a fine coating of dark hair. Their are also usually more well-endowed than the American guys, and certainly thicker than the average shaft. If you ride one, you don’t soon forget! These guys are “clean” and the pure masculine testosterone pumping out of their armpits and making all that hair wet and sweaty during the fuck session, is loaded with chemicals and hormones that make you hot and horny for his cock. There are active and passionate in bed and can make the entire room just reek with the smells of man-to-man sex – those strong masculine smells of armpit and crotch sweat. With an Arab dude, you ride the waves of pain and pleasure while he masturbates his cock inside your body.
adriaan1
01-17-2010, 02:02 PM
I’d like to know why you (non-Arabs) like sex with Arabs so much. I think I already know (LOL), I’m just curious if your reasons are the same as mine

If you think that we Europeans are all teh same in our sexual whises I think you´re wrong. Your whis can, and probable is, other than mine. I like to look at Arabs to find out where are the differences. Till now I did not find them.
adriaan1
01-17-2010, 02:06 PM
Arab men are delightfully hairy and dark and handsome. My god, never heard worse. As if there are no non-hairy Arabs. Wake up and look better.
PGHScorpion
01-17-2010, 02:07 PM
Do the Gay Arabs hate American guys?
maroc22
01-17-2010, 04:07 PM
My god, never heard worse. As if there are no non-hairy Arabs. Wake up and look better.

yes the are, but the only don’t have the sex apeal;)
maroc22
01-17-2010, 04:09 PM
If you think that we Europeans are all teh same in our sexual whises I think you´re wrong. Your whis can, and probable is, other than mine. I like to look at Arabs to find out where are the differences. Till now I did not find them.

you only see, what you like to see.
the are so many big differnece between a non-arab, and a arab men.
adriaan1
01-18-2010, 05:55 PM
i adore arab guys, dont mind smooth or hairy

I adore all kind of guys…..not just the arab-ones
adriaan1
01-18-2010, 05:56 PM
you only see, what you like to see.
the are so many big differnece between a non-arab, and a arab men.

Such as???
sahero88
01-18-2010, 10:25 PM
fuck now
Earth just finished ..
adriaan1
01-20-2010, 11:34 PM
that’s all?
Roughlover77
01-22-2010, 01:48 PM
They are so fucking butch!!!!!! What more can i say?!
Colosus
01-24-2010, 01:55 AM
Because they are hairy, very masculine and very beautiful !
maroc22
01-24-2010, 11:17 AM
Such as???

to many to write;)

there are hot, not cold.
giannigeile
01-24-2010, 04:00 PM
Hi Adriaan, MAROC22!

Let’s meet and cheque out the differences, if there are any? hahaha

I am looking for a nice maroccan guy. giannigeile.

I have to admit that at first I was afraid to enter, but it was what I spent two years working on – the debut of the Arabic version of my book, Gay Travels in the Muslim World, here in the Muslim world itself.

This edited collection of stories by gay Muslim and non-Muslim men were set to make a very public appearance at the Beirut Book Fair – the first time a gay book would be presented at a Middle Eastern book fair. The two week expo and the largest book event in the Middle East, is held in BIEL, an expo center on a peninsula jutting into the Mediterranean. The misty smell of the sea was in the air as I sauntered cautiously through the building’s lobby.

The place reflected the region – beautiful Lebanese women in tight, fashionable clothing, their swarthy young male counterparts in low rise jeans, shirts stretched on body-built shoulders, contrasted with those from the gulf region, where the real money is here, men dressed like sheiks in pressed pure white robes, their wives with them, fully covered from head to toe, only a slit for their eyes. Everywhere around all of them were children, something we should have more of at Western book expos, and then the frumpily dressed intellectuals of Egypt, in suits a size too big, a few years too old.

There was little to guide the Westerner here though. None of the pamphlets or maps were in English, or even in French, the historical second language of this former colonial outpost. Offhand, there seemed to be no Americans, and just a scattering of blonde Europeans here, part of Frankfurt Book Expo contingent. I had to ask for help. A friendly young man, of course named Mohammed, came to my rescue, telling me where I would find my publisher, Arab Diffusion, known in phonetic Arabic as Al Intishar.

I had already been told by Georges Azzi of HELEM, Lebanon’s gay rights group, that the publisher had given the book prominence, a large poster of its cover on the wall. I found the poster was next to one on a book about the CIA, making me a little skittish in what kinds of conspiracies my own book might be considered a part of. The book was also everywhere in the stand, piled in a corner and on the aisle as everyone walked around. I introduced myself to Nabil Mroue, the owner of Arab Diffusion, and the father of Ali Mroue, who was my initial contact in selling the book to them. He was a quiet, intellectual man, speaking softly to me in English, one of several languages he knows, and introducing me to his staff, and his other son Nadim. I wandered around to get a feel for the Fair, looking also for people at the various Middle Eastern publishing houses I had met at other fairs around the world. In contrast to New York or London, the Beirut Book Fair is rather calm, but plenty of Arabic writers were around, surrounded by fans and cameras.

While I was gone, Mr. Mroue had looked for people he wanted to introduce me to, and I saw he was helping one man purchasing many books, mine included. This man, who worked for the Saudi government, put the book into my hand, asking me to sign it, the first of several times I would do so today. We chatted for a few minutes and we even talked about having me speak on the book in Saudi Arabia. (This was the third time someone from the Saudi government had asked me this at a book fair.)

Soon others came to congratulate me for the Arabic version of the book. One was an Egyptian book seller who had heard of the controversy of the initial problems with some of the language of the translation. A dissident who had been arrested three times by Mubarek’s government, he asked me to come to speak in his bookstore in Cairo, where I plan to pass through in January. Others who came were fellow writers, others publishers who had long wanted to carry such a book and others ordinary people who had come to the book fair. One of these was a gay high school teacher, delighted to see such a book in Arabic. He told me some of his students, seeking advice on sexuality, would ask him for things to read and there was little he could recommend. Now he would have a resource.

In all, having entered the book fair with such trepidation, I feel my first day here was successful, and Mr. Mroue had sold quite a few books, and Mohammed, the friendly greeter I met on the way in, even made sure to say goodbye. The real test comes with the official signing event for the book, Tuesday December 22 at 6pm Beirut time. I don’t know how many are likely to come, but word is certainly getting around. HELEM will do a blast for the book to their mailing list, and Bertho Makso, who runs LebTour, a gay travel and event company in Beirut, will also send out invites. That should be an interesting, and very visible day for the book, and my report on it will be the next time I check into the Huffington Post from this six week long Middle Eastern tour for Gay Travels in the Muslim World.

Funky Old Medina

DAY 253: Founded in the eighth century and declared a World Heritage Site in 1981, Fez is one of Morocco’s premiere imperial cities with a “bustling, colorful medina that epitomizes Morocco. No visit to the country is complete without seeing it,” says Let’s Go. With only two days left in Morocco, I supposed at least one in Fez was in order.

“WE’RE IN RABAT,” I said, tapping Sebastian on the shoulder. He was the deep sleeper between the two of us, even cramped in an overnight bus from Essaouira. We got our bags off the bus at the bus terminal in Rabat, Morocco’s capital city, a place we had been recommended to skip if we were short on time. We shopped around for a bus to take us the four extra hours eastbound to Fez — one was leaving immediately. We got tickets for that bus but perhaps took too much time for a pee break (two minutes) because we missed the bus. A guy at the bus company led us around the terminal to figure out what to do, leading us to a petit taxi; he wanted us to take the taxi to catch up to the bus, most likely at an additional cost. We weren’t sure if it was a scam to get more money from us or not.

“We'll just take the next bus” we told him in French.

The man argued in a mix of Arabic and broken French that our tickets were specifically for the bus that left already and that we had to take the taxi. He sighed when we turned him down and so he put us on the next bus. Both Sebastian and I fell asleep on it.

We were rudely awakened when the bus stopped on the shoulder. Ha, another breakdown, I thought. I must be a jinx after all. But nothing was wrong with the vehicle. It had caught up to our proper bus and we were frantically called to get off, get our bags and get on the other bus. There was some truth in the bus terminal guy in Rabat after all; it’s a shame that with all the shadiness of Moroccans that deal with tourists, a foreigner always assumes he’s up to something.

FOUR HOURS LATER, we finally arrived in Fez, right outside the old medina wall. Entering inside, we were greeted by the usual touts, one of which had a business card of the hotel we made a reservation for the day before. We trusted this one this time and he led us to the Hotel Cascade, a cheap hotel in a convenient location near the ornately-painted Blue Gate. After settling in, we took to the narrow streets of the medina (old city), only wide enough for pedestrians and the occasional pack mule or horse. Fez boasts the largest media of all of Morocco’s cities, with a maze of streets and alleyways so confusing that even the independent traveler-minded guidebooks suggest hiring a guide. A guide would help you find your way through the web of streets where everything looks similar, and more importantly, keep the other touts at bay from hassling you to be your guide. I could have passed as a guide in m y galabiyya, but at 42°C (107°F) it was way too hot to wear it; our hotel manager said Fez had the highest temperature in the country that day.

Forsaking the cost of a guide, Sebastian and I winged it while wandering independently anyway; sometimes it’s just nice to get lost. Immediately we were hounded by restaurant and shop touts who were a bit more bitter about tourists turning them down or ignoring them. A bag vendor tried to sell Sebastian a bag he was mildly interested in, in a polite and friendly way telling us he’d give us a good price with no games or pressure.

“I kinda like that guy,” Sebastian told me as we walked away politely, not interested in the man’s goods. But then the man called to us in English from behind.

“You wasted my time!”

“I take that back,” Sebastian said to me.

WE MADE A MISSION of trying to find Fez’s famous tanneries, where citizens dried and dyed fresh leather of cows, sheep and camels. Even with a map and a compass it was near impossible to find in the medina’s labyrinth and we often found ourselves going in circles or backtracking to familiar sights, like the Mosque Quaraouiyine, the ninth century mosque built by Fatima Al-Fihra that also housed the world’s oldest university. The touts took advantage of our lost, confused state — knowing damn well sure we were looking for the tanneries without us having to tell them — and tried to either lead us there (with a catch presumably) or have us check out their restaurant (Sebastian mentioned we might be interested in finding a nice place for our last night in Morocco) or sell us souvenirs that we didn’t want:

“Sixty for the bag,” one said in English.

“That’s too much,” I told him.

“How much you want to pay for this bag?”

“I don’t want it.”

“But what price would you like?”

“Well, if I wanted it — and I don’t — in Marrakesh, they sell it for thirty.”

“Okay, you buy it for thirty,” he said reaching for the bag to shove in my face.

“I don’t want it,” I said, walking away.

“Come on, thirty! Thirty! Thirty-five… come on,” he said, his voice trailing off as I got farther away. Funny, we was actually raising the price on me.

LET’S GO SAYS TO FIND THE TANNERIES, follow the path of the six-sided cobblestones until you smell the funky stench of fresh leather and dyes. Even with that said, we still couldn’t follow our noses (there were walls in the way) and gave up, caved and asked for directions to a secluded storeowner. Immediately his associate came to our aid and it became evident why we couldn’t find the tanneries on our own; there’s no official entry, the classic overlooking vantage point was only found by entering a store with a balcony nearby the big vats. The catch of course was the hard sell on goods in the store after you take your pictures (other picture above), but Sebastian and I managed to politely decline the offers of the salesman without him getting pissed off. We were led to another guy who brought us to a spice store who was going to give us a whole sales pitch, but we stopped the process before they got pissed for declining them. “We’ll just go on our own now. You save your time, we save our time,” I told him.

We declined more guidance touts (including kids that we questioned if they should be in school), explaining to them that we wanted to just wander and get lost on our own. Our wanderings led us to a much less crowded area where people lived and other kids played in a small plaza. Our only guidance came from multiple arrowed green signs we noticed that pointed to the “Jardin Snan Sbil.” At almost every turn we saw one of the modern signs for this supposed garden and followed them like it was a scavenger hunt for about an hour. The green signs hung from above led us through the maze, passed yummy pastry shops and quiet residential streets — but to no apparent garden at all. In the end, it actually led us out of the medina in the most indirect way possible to an area near our hotel. And after all that, we discovered the garden was closed for the day.

As a consolation we visited the nearby museum situation in an impressive former palace with a ceramic and perfume exhibition. Tiring from all the walking afterwards, we just vegged out in our room with a bottle of wine we bought in Essaouira and makeshift wine glasses.

“YOU WANT A RESTAURANT?” asked another tout later that night when Sebastian and I went out after an early evening siesta. He, like the owner of the restaurant near the hotel, desperately wanted to do business with us, if only we were hungry. “I can show you one.”

“No thanks, we’re not hungry now.”

The tout cut to the chase. “You want hash? I have hash. Good stuff. Come one, give it a try.”

“Why do they always come to me with this?” Sebastian vocalized his thoughts to me.

“I think it’s because of your hair,” I told him.

“Good stuff. Just try it, come one,” the tout continued. “If you don’t like it, you keep your money, I’ll keep the hash.”

“We’ve heard that one before.”

The tout followed us no matter how hard we tried to politely get rid of him. We mentioned we were looking for internet, and that most were closed. “I can show you another one. It’s open all day and all night,” the tout said. “Come with me and try the hash.”

“No, thanks.”

Suddenly the guy’s desperation for a sale turned him into a less friendly guy. “Are you a homosexual?” he asked Sebastian. “Are you gay? You want a big cock? I got a big cock right here, a big Moroccan cock!” he continued with a sarcastic demeaning tone.

“No.”

Eventually he gave up and left us alone, leaving us to find internet at the late hour of midnight on our own. There was in fact a 24-hour internet cafe just outside the medina where we had a session. Hungry around one in the morning — and wrongly assuming that a snack stand would be open — we found ourselves with no choice on our last night in Morocco to eat nothing Moroccan, but food from our emergency stashes. I donated a can of tuna and Sebastian a bag of freeze-dried peas. It was our culinary Moroccan anti-climax, but satisfied our hungers in the meantime. It had been a long, tiring day, from bus rides to street mazes to offers of “big Moroccan cocks.”

The Arabic culture is still at a stage of evolution where it has little to no tolerance to human differences. Whatever is different, and whatever defies the norms is rejected and looked down upon. That explains the bad connotations associated to the word “shaz” which is a direct translation of the word queer.

“Shozooz” in the Arabic language is a term that is used to label anything that is different than normal; it is also used to mean that something is odd or weird which also holds bad connotations in the Arabic perception.

While the homosexual community in the west has been able to reclaim the word ‘queer’ – which is now being used with pride by some of the community’s younger members to describe themselves – it only happened because their culture was mature enough to embrace and celebrate people’s differences. Unfortunately, that is not the case for the Arabic culture, and thus, Arab homosexuals face a dilemma of terms and labels in their battle towards gaining acceptance from their local societies. “What applies to the west doesn’t necessary applies to us” a sentence that many Arab gay activists believe in.

That is true in a way especially now that homosexuality itself is widely perceived in the Arab world as an imported construct that is against the general consensus of moral conduct. The issue here in the Arabic area is that people still insist on defining homosexuality by sexual behavior instead of sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is a recent scientific discovery due to scientific advancements in psychology, human brain and behavior. It hasn’t picked up in the Arabic area due to different reasons; first because it is a new concept, second because it is a western invention that strongly challenges Arabic sexual moral values, third because only few Arabs actually read books and forth because it contradicts with what most people believe in of Islamic teachings.

In reality, same sex attraction and not behavior is what connect this wide pool of people. They self-identify as homosexuals rather than queer and thus are demanding to be called “Methlyeen” rather than “Shazeen”. While being queer – odd or weird – doesn’t necessary mean a bad thing, it is actually bad in the current perception of the Arabic mind, and thus it is kind of a word that offends most Arab homosexuals.

3 weeks ago, I was watching an episode of Desperate Housewives – season 4 -; they had this brilliant conclusion at the end of the episode related to labels and the way we – human beings – judge each other. They had a priest who used his power to tarnish the reputation of a woman and call her prostitute because she rejected his sexual advancements, they had a creepy child who was bitter and angry and caused many troubles to her family, they had a female drug dealer who rejected strongly marital disloyalty, and they had a man who was perceived as a villain for a horrible past mistake and who showed a heroic act of standing up for his wife.

They ended the show with a line where they asked: Can a priest be evil? Are children always innocent? Can a drug dealer be a good person? And can a villain be a hero? In the same line, queers can be good people, but until our societies become mature enough to see behind labels, homosexuals will keep on demanding to be called “Methleyeen”. Unfortunately we still literally apply the Arabic proverb “an envelope is known through its title” and judge people based on the label they carry.